Golf R - Test Drive

Are the cheap lease deals still around for this? Had a look but it's around £300 a month for a DSG.

They do look fantastic bar the quad pipes.

Speak to jack snare, he should be able to do you a better deal..

http://www.vehiclesavers.com/car-leasing/volkswagen/golf-hatchback/2.0-tsi-r-5dr-dsg.html

You get cool popping noises with dsg.

yes on the overrun and paddle downshifts. It does sound good :D

Some photos of midnight blue http://www.rforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=5743
 
It's not part of the genuinely sporty range though is it, it's more of a GT car than a sports car with its weight and what not.

Perhaps - the current Z4 is just compromise, compromise and compromise. You can get an equally fast other-model cabriolet/drop-top and not have any downsides that the Z4 has.

Obviously missing a Z4M here.

On topic, the Scirocco R impressed me, although it was slower and without 4WD (or RWD). The gimping of the power due to torque-steering was very frustrating too. The Golf R tackles all of these issues, but still needs something zappier in the styling. Beefier arches etc.
 
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The current Z4 is not particularly compromised depending on what you want it to be. If you want a track/handling weapon, they aren't what you're after, and BMW doesn't do anything for you there, except perhaps the Z4M.
On the other hand, if you're after a sports car - which is 50% looks, 20% power, 20% handling and 10% everything else IMO - it does the job rather well. Looks aggressively sporty, convertible hard top gives you refinement when you want it and folds away quickly the rest of the time, some real crackers of engines giving <6s 0-60 with 35+mpg, there's a lot to like about the current Z4 range.
Clearly the Z4 is also about the luxuries which many sports cars won't be and it's not going to compete in the £20-25k range like many others, but unless you're after driving dynamics above all else that's not compromises - that's touches that make it a daily driver as well as a weekend car.
 
Perhaps - the current Z4 is just compromise, compromise and compromise. You can get an equally fast other-model cabriolet/drop-top and not have any downsides that the Z4 has.

Obviously missing a Z4M here.

On topic, the Scirocco R impressed me, although it was slower and without 4WD (or RWD). The gimping of the power due to torque-steering was very frustrating too. The Golf R tackles all of these issues, but still needs something zappier in the styling. Beefier arches etc.

Going off topic slightly, but where are the compromises and downsides? You're buying a 2 seater specifically so there's that aspect, but I can't think of any others. It handles ok on the road, plenty of grip, corners flat, has a folding hard top, a super-fast DCT gearbox, fantastic engine, great sounding exhaust with loads of popping on overrun, 30+mpg commuting, iDrive and other BMW interior kit and it looks pretty good IMO. The only thing I'd improve on it is some more feedback in the steering, but I didn't buy it for that.
 
I read this thread with interest. My wife and I test drove one a couple of weeks back, 5 door manual in a fairly basic spec. With the idea being to replace he ageing mk4 R32.

Both of us came away feeling quite disappointed, more so as time went on. It's the first turbo I've driven, so can't comment on whether it had significant lag or not as I have nothing to compare it to. My wife is no racer, but she commented it didn't pick up as well lower down the rev range, unlike her R32 which is quite free flowing. Sure when the revs hit the mid range it started to fly, but the way she drives wouldn't combine with the R power delivery at all.

Performance comments aside, for a £35k car with reasonable spec, and a car knocking on for £40k spec'd up, albeit before any discounts, it felt a bit, dare I say it, cheap. Biggest issue for us was the plastic used in the cabin. It was a dark grey and just stuck out too much, contrasting against the leather seats and the demonstrator had some scratches on the lower door cards which really showed up. Our mk4 has a much darker dash, if it's not black it's indistinguishable which makes a huge difference to the feel and doesn't contrast against black leather.

Wasn't fussed about the black headlining, made the car feel very dark in absence of a sunroof. I love a sunroof and don't know why so many people spec without? The "racy" engine note that comes through the speakers just felt a bit tacky, and I didn't care much for the handbrake switch. On the upside, rear legroom was massive even with the drivers seat adjusted for my position there was plenty of room where there is not in the mk4. This comes at the expense of the boot which is markedly smaller and quite frankly not big enough for us as the "practical" hatch option.

Furthermore, for the cash to change from our current mk4, I just couldn't justify the cost. It's a shame good spec mk5 r32's are hard to come by.

My bigger concern is how cars are changing. We have been fortunate enough to own a handful of solid performance cars which have all had NA petrol engines, and the power delivery of the R left me cold and I'm not sure if this is typical of a turbo. I understand changes are needed to improve fuel economy and emissions, and I feel one day I will have to bite the turbo bullet.

Feels like a nice V8 M3 saloon might be on the cards...
 
I read this thread with interest. My wife and I test drove one a couple of weeks back, 5 door manual in a fairly basic spec. With the idea being to replace he ageing mk4 R32.

Both of us came away feeling quite disappointed, more so as time went on. It's the first turbo I've driven, so can't comment on whether it had significant lag or not as I have nothing to compare it to. My wife is no racer, but she commented it didn't pick up as well lower down the rev range, unlike her R32 which is quite free flowing. Sure when the revs hit the mid range it started to fly, but the way she drives wouldn't combine with the R power delivery at all.

Performance comments aside, for a £35k car with reasonable spec, and a car knocking on for £40k spec'd up, albeit before any discounts, it felt a bit, dare I say it, cheap. Biggest issue for us was the plastic used in the cabin. It was a dark grey and just stuck out too much, contrasting against the leather seats and the demonstrator had some scratches on the lower door cards which really showed up. Our mk4 has a much darker dash, if it's not black it's indistinguishable which makes a huge difference to the feel and doesn't contrast against black leather.

Wasn't fussed about the black headlining, made the car feel very dark in absence of a sunroof. I love a sunroof and don't know why so many people spec without? The "racy" engine note that comes through the speakers just felt a bit tacky, and I didn't care much for the handbrake switch. On the upside, rear legroom was massive even with the drivers seat adjusted for my position there was plenty of room where there is not in the mk4. This comes at the expense of the boot which is markedly smaller and quite frankly not big enough for us as the "practical" hatch option.

Furthermore, for the cash to change from our current mk4, I just couldn't justify the cost. It's a shame good spec mk5 r32's are hard to come by.

My bigger concern is how cars are changing. We have been fortunate enough to own a handful of solid performance cars which have all had NA petrol engines, and the power delivery of the R left me cold and I'm not sure if this is typical of a turbo. I understand changes are needed to improve fuel economy and emissions, and I feel one day I will have to bite the turbo bullet.

Feels like a nice V8 M3 saloon might be on the cards...

It might be worth trying out an M135i which is a comparable car. Even though it's a turbo'd car it does hit peak torque by something like 1500rpm, I find it very difficult not to feel like I have instant power in almost gear and speed!
 
I can imagine I would agree with all fo those comments regarding the new Golf R if i drove one however I loved the conclusion.

**** it lets get a V8.

:D
 
I can imagine I would agree with all fo those comments regarding the new Golf R if i drove one however I loved the conclusion.

**** it lets get a V8.

:D

To be honest, it's not a bad idea at all! :D

I went from turbo to NA and am completely sold. The older 2.0tfsi was fun and shoved you back into your seat once the turbo spooled but driving a VR6 from the MK5 R32 was something else completely for me. Silky smooth power delivery and nice burbly noise is where it's at lol

The Mk7 R certainly looks impressive on paper and I have no doubt it's equally as good on the road but it just doesn't excite me at all. I think I'm more interested in the new Polo R but that's probably just because it's the size of a shoe with 4WD and the same 2.0tsi engine!
 
my mate has an R32 and ive told him about the R on lease deals and is interested

i best tell him to test drive one first!
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad car, and the performance is certainly there and I haven't had a close look at the competition like a 135M or an S3, but compared to an 11 year old R32 I was expecting more.

On the 1 series, I quite fancy one but my wife isn't so keen on the bread can look. We both enjoy the event of driving, and I realised recently that the experience isn't necessarily correlated with paper stats. I also prefer a manual to auto or semi auto and again, like a non turbo choice, options are getting thin.
 
Is the Dynaudio system available in the Golf R?

Just had this through.

Vehicle: VW Golf 2.0 TSi R 5Dr DSG

Extras: Solid Red

Profile: 6 + 23

Miles per annum: 5,000 (Cheaper to take out on 5k pa and pay the excess at the end)

Rental: £246.54 Inc Vat

Excess Mileage Charge: 6ppm + vat

Processing Fee: £199 + vat

Can’t have sound system upgrade on the Golf R

That's from Freedom Contracts.
 
Is the Dynaudio system available in the Golf R?

Just had this through.

Vehicle: VW Golf 2.0 TSi R 5Dr DSG

Extras: Solid Red

Profile: 6 + 23

Miles per annum: 5,000 (Cheaper to take out on 5k pa and pay the excess at the end)

Rental: £246.54 Inc Vat

Excess Mileage Charge: 6ppm + vat

Processing Fee: £199 + vat

Can’t have sound system upgrade on the Golf R

That's from Freedom Contracts.

is that with no deposit though?
 
It's still 7.5 grand to borrow a Golf for 2 years. It's a good deal if you were thinking of buying a Golf R anyway but it's not a no brainer that should attract those who otherwise wouldnt have one.
 
Is the Dynaudio system available in the Golf R?

Just had this through.

Vehicle: VW Golf 2.0 TSi R 5Dr DSG

Extras: Solid Red

Profile: 6 + 23

Miles per annum: 5,000 (Cheaper to take out on 5k pa and pay the excess at the end)

Rental: £246.54 Inc Vat

Excess Mileage Charge: 6ppm + vat

Processing Fee: £199 + vat

Can’t have sound system upgrade on the Golf R

That's from Freedom Contracts.

Before you do that you might want to go through VW direct. Seems like they are cheaper.

For a basic white 5 door car, 5k miles, £1426 deposit, £217.61 x23 inc vat
Red car same deposit £206.66 x23 inc vat
White DSG same deposit £254.51 x23 inc vat
All the above have an initial deposit of approx £2000, but you get a £600 rebate after collection.
This is direct from Alan Day VW mentioned above.
I think these are the cheapest overall cost I've seen

The post and also the Alan Day guy's details are in here: http://www.rforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=39&p=166466
 
Just testing the waters at the moment and seeing how good a deal I can get. Will obviously play companies off each other to get the price down and I'll report back :)

Can understand leasing is just borrowing a car but over the 2 years you are probably paying less than the depreciation if you bought it straight up.
 
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