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Just to clarify something, Militant can simply mean confrontational and combative in debate or views, it need not mean violent, although it can be both.
Back to Joseph Stalin, he was indeed militant (in the confrontational and violent definitions) in the name of Atheism. That he was also a communist is simply coincidental. Stalin attempted to create not only a (form of) Communist State, but also an Atheist State, he did this through various means including forced re-education and violent suppression of non-atheists.
seriously though, organization called the league of militant atheists.
what more do you need?
Quite.
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Or you could say C. , it had to abandon us to take care of business elsewhere. Or "they" had to.
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Am I alone in thinking there's more comfort in knowing when the end comes, thats it? I get to be worm food and left alone in sleep for eternity?
I don't want to play Golf with nice biddies in some outer dimension or molest an armada of pure women who I don't know. Certainly don't want to be reincarnated as anything.
I don't want to play Golf with nice biddies in some outer dimension or molest an armada of pure women who I don't know. Certainly don't want to be reincarnated as anything.
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Perhaps you can actually elucidate your own argument...I don't watch randomly posted videos in lieu of a person who wishes to debates actual argument, I don't have the time and I usually find they are either irrelevant or flawed in some way and then it becomes impossible to debate as the person who made the video is not actually part of the debate you are having at the time.
In any case, it doesn't alter the fact that there are examples of militant atheism that are directly comparable to religious militancy or that there are degrees of militancy...this is ably demonstrated within politics where activists, particularly within the Union movement are often referred to as militants, this doesnt make them terrorists or violent, it simply means that they are confrontational and combative in their approaches.
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I was just clarifying that the term militant doesn't necessarily mean violent.
This may seem like a technicality but the only reason he did so was to further the communist state. He wished to promote scientific achievements and knowledge; this was his (overly brutal) method. It was done in the name of communism; the spread of atheism was a step to his ideal communist state. If he felt a religion would benefit instead, that would have been the ideology used.
This was the line they had against religion (from the page you linked):
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The fact remains that Stalin and the groups such as Tefal mentioned were, without doubt, Militant Atheists who did what they did in the name of Atheism...communism, and it was not communism in its purest form, but a form designed to promote and spread an atheist ideology that was a tool in his underlying political agenda. This is also true of religious militants, groups such as Al-Qaeda have a political agenda and use religious militancy in order to advance that underlying agenda...Stalin and others, such as Mao, Pol Pot et al, like him were no different in using Atheism and doing pretty abominable things in the name of their Atheism to engender power, control and promote a political agenda. This is no different to various other groups, such as the aforementioned Al-Qaeda and ISIS who do pretty abominable things (although not quite on the scale of those mentioned) in the name of their religion in order to promote and engender the same things. The idea was that The Communist (Socialist) State was inherently Atheist, Islamic Militants (Islamists) promote a Caliphate (State) which is inherently Religious. This illustrates the similarities between the two, one group used atheism, the other used religion...both had an underlying political agenda which was underpinned by those opposing philosophies. It is a mistake to assume that in both cases it is Atheism or Theism that is the motivating factor, both are simply tools in a politically motivated cause to create a unified dogmatic and indoctrinated State, both are militant in their approach to secure their respective ideological States...one which aggressively promotes God, the other aggressively opposes God.
What this shows is that it is a dogmatic political agenda and the idea of infallible authority of the leadership that is the underlying issue in both Islamist and Communist doctrines and if you accept the idea that Atheism is coincidental to one, then also Theism is coincidental to the other as each would simply find another invasive ideology with which to cement their political and Statehood ambitions.
This still means that Militant Atheism can be demonstrated to be somewhat more serious than the meme posted originally portrayed.
I also did not link anything????
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Not sure where I got the idea he linked it but yes
However, in the case of Stalin and others, there is no atheist agenda they are following (I'm not sure how to explain this, it is difficult to word). In the case of Al-Qaeda or ISIS, they are doing it as ordered by the Koran, taken directly from Islamic ideology itself, e.g. "I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers."
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But mainstream Religion go'ers would denounce that logic.
I'd have less of an issue with it all, if they left kids alone until they hit 16 and then they could make up their own minds.
The fact we still entrust the brainwashing of our kids with text written back when everyone thought the world was flat, isn't a recipe of tolerance, progress or success.
We invited a really nice kid to my son's birthday party recently, his parents wouldn't allow it because they are Jehovahs. It's a good circle of parents and kids go to each other's parties. How this poor kid was excluded is beyond me, feel bad for the lad.
Cultists.
This, I find it incredible that anyone of sound mind can give any credence to ideas that are known beyond reasonable doubt to be fantasy, and not even good fantasy at that, convoluted, socially damaging, misinterpreted texts that were utter rubbish in the first place.