You also used to say "stand and bang" in internet discussions, but that didn't work out too well for you.
Peadophiles in the House of Commons
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You also used to say "stand and bang" in internet discussions, but that didn't work out too well for you.
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I find it nauseating to say the least that that politicians have force fed the police with reform and codes of ethics not to mention more accountability yet this has been covered up for three decades.
They should get their own house in order first, commission an immediate public enquiry and anyone guilty of abuse, assisting abuse or cover ups should be nailed to the wall.
It is an absolute and shameful disgrace.
They should get their own house in order first, commission an immediate public enquiry and anyone guilty of abuse, assisting abuse or cover ups should be nailed to the wall.
It is an absolute and shameful disgrace.
The fact you even posted that shows that it very clearly did work out well.
Tbh I don't think it will have any effect if it's proven to be a new Labour thing or the old public school Labour toffs, which just about covers the names I've heard from the Labour side.
What we actually need to be referring to is morality. Today, our morals say homosexuality and heterosexual attraction (both over the age of 16) is "right". Fifty years ago we said homosexuality was wrong along with sex/attraction to under 16s, but attraction to under 16s was less wrong than homosexuality. Back several hundred more years and homosexuality would have you killed but marriage with 13 year olds was acceptable. Back even longer and both homosexuality and sex with minors was seen as perfectly acceptable.
It's a moving target as our sociotal morals change. As you say, it is all "natural", but some things are more "natural" than others. A sexual relationship of a post puberty opposite sexed 13 year old being evolutionarily "correct", whereas sex with someone of the same sex is "wrong", along with sex with a pre pubescent child...
Aye. Presumably whilst standing.
And when you say consent you actually mean legally allowed to give consent. Another self imposed sociotal norm. Plenty of post pubescent teens know exactly what they are getting into when they have sex underage. Some regret it, some don't, much like post 16 year olds having sex.
The role of positions of authority and force not included in the above case.
This is also making the assumption that the discussion we are talking about child abuse as a whole, which would include anyone up to the age of 16 and will be what the government report would have looked at.
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No, I'd go with politicians = arse-covering Old Boys Club.
By this 'independent' investigation? Nothing.
And to the last part of that? What do you think is going on that said "old boys club" feel deserves to be covered up?
Which also begs the question. If sexual orientation is not a choice, why are we locking up paedophiles rather than sending them to hospital/therapists like many other mental health issues?
Perhaps the stigma brought up by witch hunts such as this is stopping otherwise normally and good members of society getting the help they may need before abusing a child.
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What is they never act upon their predilection? If one of these men draws 'art' depicting the subject in question, is that acceptable? No one would be harmed.
I would hope you'd object to the above. But based on your argument, I don't see how you can.
It's worse in the US. Any therapist that has a patient with paedophilia is legally obliged to inform the authorities. By authorities they mean the Police. Who will then come and detain the patient.
Never happens though does it. All paedophiles have a natural urge to satisfy, which is sexual gratification involving children. Now those paedophiles who never actually physically abuse a child ever, are still viewing child porn in order to gratify themselves. Therefore they create a demand for more and more child porn to be produced in order to gratify themselves. So in effect they are abusing children by proxy.
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Got any sources for that? As I'm not too sure that is entirely true.
What exactly are you in doubt about ? You should watch a Louis Theroux documentary about paedophiles in America where he went to a detention facility for paedophiles and spoke to them and the staff. It was very informative. Worth a watch if you haven't seen it. It will explain a lot about how paedophiles are the way they are and without chemical castration they find it impossible to resist their natural urges. Although many try to deceive the staff into thinking they are cured, it doesn't work. The facility has this penis ring sensor that they fit to the penis. The patient is then shown evocative images of children. If he becomes even slightly aroused they can detect it.
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Harriet Harman and the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) for starters. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...linked-group-lobbying-right-sex-children.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...-and-the-Paedophile-Information-Exchange.html
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