Apollo45

[Malevolence]

oh man justice has never been served better, that idiot deserved that punch and some more, what an idiot

Notice how restrained he was, right up until that POS called him a coward. He was perfectly justified in giving the idiot a slap.

 

[Spook187]

I thought they went back another 6 times?

I mean when from the last one in the 70s, public lost interest= less money for NASA.

 

[Iraklis F.C.]

Personally I think in many ways we've gone backwards over the last 45 years.
We haven't sent anyone higher than the Space Station, we've even lost our reusable manned space vehicle (although we may be getting a new one in the next 10 years or so*), and it seems that the idiots who don't understand, or even worse don't believe in science are gaining the upper ground.

Whilst i dont believe we have gone backwards, we have certainly not achieved lot given the progress in technology. I am still amazed what has been achieved back then, with primitive computers but lots of guts and will. Unfortunately humanity shifts its interest in rogue economics rather than the final frontier. People just dont care. I wish i could witness in my lifetime a landing on Mars.


PS. Carl Sagan was a HUGE loss to humanity, non replaceable up till this day, i miss him as if he was a relative.

 

[VoG]

Personally I think in many ways we've gone backwards over the last 45 years.

Aldrin himself thought that, I remember seeing him in an interview a few years ago & he was deeply disappointed in NASA's failure to capitalise on the moon landings, he himself said all we did was go to the moon, pee on it, and come back home again.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Anyway, I remember exactly where I was 45 years ago.
I spent virtually the whole of Apollo 11 with my Grandad who's call sign was G3AQW.
We had a TV and I was in charge of moving the antenna for the ham radio and we were picking radio signals up directly from the moon.

 

[Orionaut]

Whilst i dont believe we have gone backwards, we have certainly not achieved lot given the progress in technology. I am still amazed what has been achieved back then, with primitive computers but lots of guts and will. Unfortunately humanity shifts its interest in rogue economics rather than the final frontier. People just dont care. I wish i could witness in my lifetime a landing on Mars.


PS. Carl Sagan was a HUGE loss to humanity, non replaceable up till this day, i miss him as if he was a relative.

I have always felt that the biggest disaster to befall Manned space exploration was the USA getting to the Moon first!

Had the USSR managed to beat them too it, then the USA would have been compelled to go for Mars.

The only way to do Mars in the early 70's would have been Nuclear Pulse Propulsion (A concept that was already well developed for both very large ground launched Spaceships and somewhat smaller Saturn boosted Spacecraft..)

And had the USA gone for this, we would be all over the Solar System by now!

Ho Humm, "The space age that got away!"

 

[antijoke]

if we were able to get to the moon 45 years ago then why has no people have left earth orbit on NASA missions since? it makes no sense.

Anyone who has played kerbal knows it has no logic

The school holidays.....

 

[ThundyCat]

Can we go back to the moon just so we can leave arknor up there?

Great idea.

 

[JRS]

I've often wondered what might have been if the US government had taken all the money that they spaffed on fighting a war in Vietnam (19 years, five months, 4 weeks and 1 day of utter pointlessness) and given it to NASA instead. The Apollo Applications program could have brought long-term lunar missions and a manned flyby of Venus, along with the Earth orbit scientific missions that they had planned. Pretty much all from AAP that survived the budget cuts was Skylab (which at least achieved all the goals it was set and more) and the Apollo-Soyuz link-up (politically priceless, scientifically useless ).

 

[Freefaller]

The fact that we have mirrors on the moon for Lunar laser ranging is enough proof to me.

I think it's a shame we've lost our drive for this sort of exploration, but I guess there's not much more left to learn by sending people to the moon.

We've sent an autonomous vehicle onto Mars which is pretty cool, and Voyager is now in outer space (well left the solar system) - I mean how cool is that?

 

[Glaucus]

The fact that we have mirrors on the moon for Lunar laser ranging is enough proof to me.

What I like is the idioms say we never went back, shows how much they know. They landed 6 times in total.

An amazing achievement, but not what we should be aiming for today.
Boots and bottles on new worlds isn't sustainable or worth it. Nasa and others (as it'll need to be a multinational achievement) to build up space infrastructure for permanent space habitation and permanent colonization of the moon and mars.

We need fuel depots in space, supplied with fuel obtained from moon or asteroids. Seeing as 99% of a rocket is just to get it into LEO.

If anyone interested Buzz talks about this in his book Mission to mars. Although I don't agree with all off it. The basic ideas and needs are the same. Mars Cycle is a great idea. Means you can put a heavy transport ship into a single orbit which links mars and earth, means you can have huge living space, radiation shielding etc. Then just use a light albeit fast craft to link to get to it. Think of it a bit like the ISS but in a orbit which passes the earth and mars every couple of years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_cycler#Earth-Mars_cyclers

 

[Gregster]

A shame that people still feel that the moon landing was a hoax A great achievement at the time.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Shadows are all wrong
We never got to the moon with the power of a 90s calculator
Radiation would kill them
Moon is clearly not on a tilt.
We never went back and every mission since is like we never went in the first place

Radiation would not kill them. There is certainly an elevated exposure but it is not lethal. What about ISS astronauts ?

It was the greatest scientific achievement to date and space is where we should be looking to. While a billion or so years off, our sun's luminosity will be increased to the point where all life on Earth will be decimated and that's before she runs out if hydrogen and goes red giant.

 

[Ayahuasca]

While a billion or so years off, our sun's luminosity will be increased to the point where all life on Earth will be decimated and that's before she runs out if hydrogen and goes red giant.

I think there's far more likely ways the human race will be wiped out well before then.

I've always wondered though if an extinction sized meteor hits earth, what would the guys in the ISS do? Imagine that feeling of looking down on earth knowing you can't return and you're one of only 6 humans remaining.

 

[4T5]

Even after all these years I'm still not that impressed but then I think money spent on Space missions is a waste.
Bit like Brazil holding the World cup while there population starves & lives in Shacks.


I'm more impressed by people like Galileo.

 

[doodah]

Groen gone? Or is arknor his apprentice?

 

[Glaucus]

Even after all these years I'm still not that impressed but then I think money spent on Space missions is a waste.
Bit like Brazil holding the World cup while there population starves & lives in Shacks.


I'm more impressed by people like Galileo.

such a sad and wrong opinion. Space is one if the best ROI a government can do. It's hard to meadure but even the lowest estimate is 2:1 and the highest estimates 14:1, so which ever way you look at it, you are improving your economy to pay for other projects.

Money is not an issue, it isn't why people starve or are homeless. It's far more complicated than that. And taking $7billion and spending it on such things won't do much with out fixing the actual issues, as seen with billions spent in Africa.


Then lets not forget the spin offs, of which nasa has a massive catalogue that has helped us all. You can explore some off them here http://spinoff.nasa.gov/

 

[4T5]

@Glaucus - Each to there own mate but for me what you get back for your money is just not worth it.
I'm not interested in Space.

I'm not even going to bother responding to the Fiscal side of the argument & what it may or may not do for the Planet we actually live on. I'd just prefer it if the money was spent on Cancer research, Better food production & more Earth exploration. I think it's ridiculous that we know more about the Moons surface than we do our own sea bed.

 

[olivier renault]

If you need the NASA budget to... OMG FIX THE HOMELESS AND STARVATION AND STUFF.

 

[Glaucus]

Which is a silly statement to make. As you make profit on space, that can then be spent on other projects. Doesn't matter if you care about space or not. Space boosts a countries economy, it does not drain it. Which means you have more money to spend on things that do not make a profit. Just an unbelievable statement to make.

The reason we are in that situation, is it's a hell off a lot easier to go to space than to the bottom of the sea.
Space is going from 1-0 atmospheres
Deepest part of the sea is going from 1 to over 1000 atmospheres. which is extremely hard.