Any religious extremist would say they are the true practitioners, a misguided interpretation of any ideology doesn't make the ideology an abomination.
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Any religious extremist would say they are the true practitioners, a misguided interpretation of any ideology doesn't make the ideology an abomination.
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Often wonder why the Muslim communities never ever come out and condone this stuff?
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Seems comparable to saying Christians all agreed with the IRA blowing up children on the highstreet like they used to. Nothing they do is religious.
Im glad Obama has altered his stance some and done something. It doesnt take much for USA to alter the balance of power in an open area like this
Im glad Obama has altered his stance some and done something. It doesnt take much for USA to alter the balance of power in an open area like this
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150 000 people complained about gaza.
why do 1.5 million not march against ISIS to show that they do not have the Islamic practitioners ear?
That's what I want to know. Surely isis have killled more people than even the Jews have against Palestine in recent history yet there is no unilateral show of abhorrence from muslims in this or other countries against isis.
Why?
why do 1.5 million not march against ISIS to show that they do not have the Islamic practitioners ear?
That's what I want to know. Surely isis have killled more people than even the Jews have against Palestine in recent history yet there is no unilateral show of abhorrence from muslims in this or other countries against isis.
Why?
The Running Man - Ah, beaten like a Ginger stepchild - I came to post exactly the same thing!
Even the people in other Middle Eastern countries have been strangely quiet about ISIS (or it's not being reported very well) - Saudi, Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Yemen - all very quiet with no mass protests against ISIS.
Even the people in other Middle Eastern countries have been strangely quiet about ISIS (or it's not being reported very well) - Saudi, Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Yemen - all very quiet with no mass protests against ISIS.
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Gaza is a major city sitting next to a 1st world rich country, with airport nearby etc Gaza is so small and densely populated, you can film the damage done from over the border pretty much and not much personal risk
ISIS is out in the desert attacking people who dont even have running water. Its much easier to slaughter them in silence and anyone reporting is walking into a battlefield alone ?
Most of the camera footage is from ISIS themselves or taken on a mobile maybe
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If it was that silent and unknown the us wouldn't have hit back with air strikes.
The muslims know exactly what isis are doing but brotherly muslims really struggle to criticise their own and would rather jump up and down against Israel and the Jews because this is another 'religion' attacking muslims despite the protestors not being patestinians or having any physical link to the nationality of the Palestinians.
Or it could be (for the 15th time) because Israel is supposed to be a western nation which should be above this. The protests are also about trying to persuade governments to stop supporting Israel with political help and military hardware whilst trying to emplace a boycott on Israeli goods, much like the boycott on apartheid South Africa. The IS aren't a western power, the UK government don't support their actions, don't allow the selling of military hardware to them and the IS don't produce anything meaning a boycott isn't needed...
You'll probably find that most of the people that marched and most of the people that comment on this forum and the internet aren't Muslims so that puts that islamophobic rant to bed.
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What part was islamaphobic?
How about muslims show some backbone and perhaps a bit of islamaphobia themselves and speak out agaibst bokoharam or IS and I mean en masse to show them that driving around beheading people is just not acceptable in this day and age?
How about muslims show some backbone and perhaps a bit of islamaphobia themselves and speak out agaibst bokoharam or IS and I mean en masse to show them that driving around beheading people is just not acceptable in this day and age?
Sadly this is my perception as well. Most of the Gaza protesters seem to be either Muslim or socialist worker types who for years have pandered to the Muslims in the name of anti-racism. The only reason the former give a crap about Palestine is because it's about non-Muslims taking over Muslim lands, something which is forbidden in the Koran. They don't care about Muslims taking over non-Muslim lands using the sort of extreme violence we see from Islamic State - indeed one might say that all IS are doing is following in the footsteps of Mohammed where he created Islam in blood.
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Thats why I've always said islam is incompatible with the west. The west is built largely on nationalism, rightly or wrongly perhaps led by Christian values and beliefs, islam ignores the issue of nationalism
they don't care that they are British except for the benefits and wealth of being such. They are muslims and will always support their muslim brothers first. Or at least not publicly denounce other muslim actions in mass. Unless it's sunni vs shia for instance.
Otherwise they wouldn't use shariah courts or try to enforce the values they do in Britain because it is obviously anti everything the British have come to be. But it supports the ongoing attempt to caphiliate the lands they reside on.
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Most Muslims do see it as wrong most humans do it's our nature.
why are there no protests in support of the yazidis perhaps because it doesn't concern Muslims as much as the gaza situation due to the simple fact that they are not Muslims.
Nice to see the lynch mob out , remember people are human first then Muslim.
why are there no protests in support of the yazidis perhaps because it doesn't concern Muslims as much as the gaza situation due to the simple fact that they are not Muslims.
Nice to see the lynch mob out , remember people are human first then Muslim.
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Why all the beheadings and abhorrent treatment of fellow humans why don't people speak out? Those that spoke out in Germany for the yazidis were attacked.
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Good to see that all the lives lost kicking out Saddam were worth it in the long run!
F this world seriously!
I've got to the point where i'm sick of hearing this! Being Muslim makes no different, any time it kicks off in the middle east this same BS sentence comes out... I honestly don't care, they are no different to us as we are no different to them.
F this world seriously!
I've got to the point where i'm sick of hearing this! Being Muslim makes no different, any time it kicks off in the middle east this same BS sentence comes out... I honestly don't care, they are no different to us as we are no different to them.
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Well it's a global problem isn't it, everyone should speak out regardless of there faith or background. But most of us don't we just carry on with our lives.
B&W is just another Muslim apologist. Let's not forget that if the shoe was on the other foot - if America was Muslim (but still the dominant superpower) - we'd all be Muslim by now. Christianity would have been wiped out long ago.
Let's not forget how badly non-muslims are treated in muslim countries. They are 2nd class citizens at best, and cannot win legal action against muslims, etc, etc, etc.
Oh and where do all these British extremists come from? Is it not from so-called moderate muslim households? They aren't born extremists. And how many so-called moderates will alert authorities if they suspect extremist teachings? Yeah, it doesn't work like that. They are all "brothers" and cover for each other. The only way radical preachers are found is when MI5 is keeping tabs on them. Otherwise they find no shortage of mosques willing to let them preach.
And why if only 3rd world countries support extremism does Saudi Arabia and Qatar back ISIS? Why do German muslims attack Yizidi protestors in German streets?
I do get a bit lost when people say 'it's not the Muslims fault', 'we are all the same', 'we are all humans', 'you are a racist for hating the Muslim way of life'..
Look at beheadings, stonings, apostasy, death sentances for minor 'crimes' (wouldn't call apostasy a crime), poor treatment of women, FGM. Majority of these actions occur in Islamic countries... how are Muslims not to blame?
Yes I get there are peaceful Muslims, and Islam is a peaceful religion, I am not saying here that ALL Muslims are bad. Yes I get that Muslims(majority atleast) in modern society are peaceful, and bring added culture to Western countries and I have no problem with that.
However, the abhorent actions that I spoke of earlier are pretty normal in a lot of Islamic states. These places are behind the times, unlike their Westernised brothers and sisters. They are just wanting their moment in the limelight. Like we did with the Crusades. Only difference is they have bombs and guns whilst we had swords and horses.... Give it a couple centuries and they will get over the whole everyone must be Muslim!
Look at beheadings, stonings, apostasy, death sentances for minor 'crimes' (wouldn't call apostasy a crime), poor treatment of women, FGM. Majority of these actions occur in Islamic countries... how are Muslims not to blame?
Yes I get there are peaceful Muslims, and Islam is a peaceful religion, I am not saying here that ALL Muslims are bad. Yes I get that Muslims(majority atleast) in modern society are peaceful, and bring added culture to Western countries and I have no problem with that.
However, the abhorent actions that I spoke of earlier are pretty normal in a lot of Islamic states. These places are behind the times, unlike their Westernised brothers and sisters. They are just wanting their moment in the limelight. Like we did with the Crusades. Only difference is they have bombs and guns whilst we had swords and horses.... Give it a couple centuries and they will get over the whole everyone must be Muslim!
Socialist worker types make up the majority of most protests, be that council workers pay, student fees or austerity. We should ignore those protests as well then.
sorry, I appear to have misunderstood, it's an anti foreigner agenda rather than islamophobia then?