ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion

This is really where we need a much stonger UN, with it's own force, to have a united front whip can flood such areas with massive forces. Then keep massive deployed forces until' central governments can be established, and troops, police etc trained.

but the troops have to come from somewhere. which means there still going to be nations wanting to pull their troops out under media pressure.

and UN mnembers arnt going to fund a stateless army, thats seperate from all as in the case of war who gets control of it?
 
I imagine with water boarding you can get anyone to say anything just to make it stop. It's absolutely horrific :(.

Not sure why you want to water board the families though :confused:.
 
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but the troops have to come from somewhere. which means there still going to be nations wanting to pull their troops out under media pressure.

and UN mnembers arnt going to fund a stateless army, thats seperate from all as in the case of war who gets control of it?


I think that may be the main issue with the UN, people expect it to run autonomously as a superstate...but it wasnt made like that, its no more than a facade of "diplomatic" bull.

A side of me would argue that its status should be upgraded and allowed to operate sovereign from everything else...but then it would just become a big boys club with no one to keep it in check.

Surprisingly i think it can only function as a pointless reminder of how useless governments really are. We should just appoint all the most aggressively annoying CEOs as our leaders and be done with it all tbh.
 
I imagine with water boarding you can get anyone to say anything just to make it stop. It's absolutely horrific :(.

Not sure why you want to water board the families though :confused:.

Well to stop others from doing the same, once there families are involved they would stop. The problem these days its all to politically correct, and its allowing people to get away with what ever they want. All passports should be taken away and whole families exported no if no buts.
The way they are beheading it isn't very nice, in fact its torture.
 
Yea I agree let's lower ourselves to such a standard we have to water board families. I assume we go for the kids aswell right? We could film it and vine it all over twitter, be mad banter.

Don't be so ridiculous.
 
RIP Steven Sotloff :(

isis say it's the English guy next. Kick off time?

Two Americans are dead and suddenly its all REALLY important that we play our part? After several weeks of non-action and several thousand dead...

Despicable (and very inconsistent) foreign policy is what helps inspire these groups.
 
Two Americans are dead and suddenly its all REALLY important that we play our part? After several weeks of non-action and several thousand dead...

Despicable (and very inconsistent) foreign policy is what helps inspire these groups.

I don't really know what the 'western' governments are playing at. There is very little pressure on their part, especially on the money side. They have no problem closing Putin's taps. Shutting down a few Emirate Sheikhs, well that's another story. And also, LOL U.N.
 
Yea I agree let's lower ourselves to such a standard we have to water board families. I assume we go for the kids aswell right? We could film it and vine it all over twitter, be mad banter.

Don't be so ridiculous.

why not, if it stops the problem, sometimes you need to be harsh to be kind, the reason why they are getting away with it they know nothing will happen to their families, its time to turn the tables and show them that if they live in this country and expect the protection then they need to live by our rules, if not the whole family gets kicked out, it would also push families to give up their children, husband and wives.
 
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So matdom if a member of your family, unknown to you, decides to go out there then you are completely in favour of your own forced extradition to that hell hole too?
 
So matdom if a member of your family, unknown to you, decides to go out there then you are completely in favour of your own forced extradition to that hell hole too?

Well if you live under the same roof and they suddenly disappear to go away for a long time you know something is up. I bet you that most of the families know there kids have gone, and don't want to say anything.
 
how are they so calm minutes before they die this horrible death? i would be literally so upset i could almost die in the thought of my neck being chopped.

this is what I dont get..they parrot the propaganda they are asked to spout

why not curse them and their god so it makes it so they cannot broadcast it to suit their own agenda

its not like its going to be any worse for you
 
why not, if it stops the problem, sometimes you need to be harsh to be kind, the reason why they are getting away with it they know nothing will happen to their families, its time to turn the tables and show them that if they live in this country and expect the protection then they need to live by our rules, if not the whole family gets kicked out, it would also push families to give up their children, husband and wives.

Wait....lets just get this straight.

Your suggesting we should water board and torture the families ?

Absolutely crazy talk.

What separates us from the folks out there chopping off journalists heads if we are going to water board and torture women and children.

Christ.
 
this is what I dont get..they parrot the propaganda they are asked to spout

why not curse them and their god so it makes it so they cannot broadcast it to suit their own agenda

its not like its going to be any worse for you

How could anyone possibly relate to what they are going through?
 
this is what I dont get..they parrot the propaganda they are asked to spout

why not curse them and their god so it makes it so they cannot broadcast it to suit their own agenda

its not like its going to be any worse for you

I would like to think i would scream '**** ISLAM' / 'NUKE THE *******S' or something along those lines if i was in that situation.

Easy to say that from here though... maybe the beheading is the better option as long as you comply...
 
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