ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion

[leaskovski]

What a surprise, Pakistan has had nearly all of it via Turkey.

News report on this?

 

[Rroff]

On the news they were reporting ISIS were making millions form the sale of oil from captured fields. So riddle me this, who on earth is actually paying millions to ISIL for stolen oil?

No one directly - they use 3rd parties (essentially brokers) who sell it to Turkey, even the Kurds, Syria, etc.

 

[Dj_Jestar]

Why is it a surprise to anyone that there is a huge queue of people from all over the world willing to buy cheap oil - the worlds most in-demand commodity, far more sought after than any other commodity by magnitudes - from ISIS?

 

[John40]

News report on this?

http://www.aawsat.net/2014/08/article55335732

The crude was being sold to Kurdish traders in the border regions straddling Iraq, Iran and Syria, and was being shipped to Pakistan where it was being sold “for less than half its original price.”

 

[do_ron_ron]

On the news they were reporting ISIS were making millions form the sale of oil from captured fields. So riddle me this, who on earth is actually paying millions to ISIL for stolen oil?

It is going via Turkey for about $75 dollars a barrel. This has depressed the sale of crude from ~$114 a barrel to todays ~$96. This I believe is the reason that the US/UK is involved.

 

[do_ron_ron]

Tbf he probably isn't aware. Some people on this forum seem to have massive difficulties understanding little subtleties such as metaphors

Or some people hide behind omissions of facts or lies for their position and then attempt to take the moral high ground.

 

[scorza]

It is going via Turkey for about $75 dollars a barrel. This has depressed the sale of crude from ~$114 a barrel to todays ~$96. This I believe is the reason that the US/UK is involved.

Surely they'd only be involved if they were selling it in Euro, or African Gold Dinars?

 

[do_ron_ron]

Surely they'd only be involved if they were selling it in Euro, or African Gold Dinars?

After costs the loss on the oil price basically wipes out the profit. You can rolleyes all you want, the US and the UK have a history of military action when the economic interests of their firms are threatened. Do a bit of research first before the glib comment.

 

[AthlonXP1800]

ISIS now within 1 mile of Baghdad and killed upto 1,000 Iraqi soldiers on 28th?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Western-airstrikes-against-terror-group.html

 

[scorza]

Islamic State agent arrested in Bangladesh. Surprise surprise, when he's not on a jihad he's a London mini-cab controller.

Oops link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ler-arrested-as-Isil-agent-in-Bangladesh.html

 

[[TW]Fox]

It is going via Turkey for about $75 dollars a barrel. This has depressed the sale of crude from ~$114 a barrel to todays ~$96. This I believe is the reason that the US/UK is involved.

The UK benefits far more from low oil price than high price.

 

[Jokester]

It is going via Turkey for about $75 dollars a barrel. This has depressed the sale of crude from ~$114 a barrel to todays ~$96. This I believe is the reason that the US/UK is involved.

The drop in price is due to weakening demand from China and the US, oil supply from Iraq is down due to IS, so it won't cause price to drop, if anything it's helping the price from dropping further.

 

[zoomee]

Looks like the bombing campaign is making great ground:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ain-silos-say-British-human-rights-group.html

U.S. airstrikes on ISIS 'killed Syrian civilians after mistaking grain silo for jihadist base'

Hope the warmongers amongst you are happy.

 

[Glaucus]

Mistakes will happen. Innocents will die. It's impossible to go to war and stop that.

I hope your happy that you want thousands to die and many more to live miserable lives under such a regime.

So just utter lol at your opinion.

 

[zoomee]

lol at the thousands we killed during the iraq war did u?
We're no better than them tbh

 

[Glaucus]

lol at the thousands we killed during the iraq war did u?
We're no better than them tbh

We're going though villages and killing everyone indiscriminately are we?
Come back to the real world. You're talking nonsense like usual.

 

[SkodaMart]

Looks like the bombing campaign is making great ground:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ain-silos-say-British-human-rights-group.html



Hope the warmongers amongst you are happy.

A bombing campaign is not going to solve anything.

It's a half assed attempt to 'do something'.

I am against the UK assisting in this charade.

 

[Glaucus]

You would be wrong there, it's all ready helping.
It's cutting their cash flow, killing the leaders etc.

It's not enough, we(the world) need boots on ground.

 

[SkodaMart]

You would be wrong there, it's all ready helping.

How is it helping?

You can't win this type of guerrilla war from the air, in fact this type of war has been proven to be impossible to win from the ground.

Vietnam, Afghanistan and USSR.

We should be spending money sorting out the violent extremists on our own soil.
Providing training and backing for those already opposing IS.

We (USA/UK and the other perpetrators of the second Iraqi war) created this mess. It's a disgrace.

 

[Tefal]

We're no better than them tbh

then feel free to **** off.