ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion

McGray said:
That is not real lol.
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It might be, there are cases of US citizens converting to radical Islam and joining terror groups. Islamic State's main appeal is to young, disillusioned, loners and misfits - I imagine Iraq/Afghanistan vets in US society would be a fertile recruitment ground for them.

If the US were to undertake a "false flag" operation like creating Islamic State, then I'd imagine they'd do it with special forces and I'm pretty sure that tattoo wouldn't be serviceable for them.
 
scorza said:
It might be, there are cases of US citizens converting to radical Islam and joining terror groups. Islamic State's main appeal is to young, disillusioned, loners and misfits - I imagine Iraq/Afghanistan vets in US society would be a fertile recruitment ground for them.
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"Hey you! Former American soldier! Are you traumatised by the way we Islamic militant types killed your friends? Don't worry, you can join us and stick it to your own country, what you say eh?"

lol :P

It's funniest if read in the accent of Marcus from Borderlands :P
 
There are *huge* numbers of US armed services personnel that are disillusioned with the US armed services and the political agendas of their leaders. I would be the least bit surprised to learn that some of them have converted.
 
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scorza said:
It might be, there are cases of US citizens converting to radical Islam and joining terror groups. Islamic State's main appeal is to young, disillusioned, loners and misfits - I imagine Iraq/Afghanistan vets in US society would be a fertile recruitment ground for them.

If the US were to undertake a "false flag" operation like creating Islamic State, then I'd imagine they'd do it with special forces and I'm pretty sure that tattoo wouldn't be serviceable for them.
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Captain Planet said:
I would like *huge* to be quantified exactly, and where you have received that information please.
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All over reddit. From ex-servicemen themselves about how nearly everyone serving in Iraq does not believe they should be there. There is also a lot of unease with how personnel with PTSD are discharged and forgotten.
 
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So some posters on a forum (a place where people usually go to whinge at the best of times) of an unknown quantity and unknown proportion of the US forces as a whole. You have no way of knowing if these people represent a "huge" number of ex US Servicemen :p Even if there were one thousand disgruntled posters there, that would not even sumount to "huge", and I bet it isn't even as many as that there.
 
Actually I do because there are lots of them. I'm not kidding when I say all over reddit. Every time there is a conversation about service personnel it turns into a discussion of disillusionment. You really think they are all happy to be in Iraq for over a decade getting blown up and seeing their brothers in arms die for a cause none of them believe in nor believe to be the truth?
 
Harlequin said:
lets not just cherry pick 1 line from the events in that time shall we:
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Captain Planet said:
Don't get in his way of self loathing righteousness. "Fight the powa!"
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Not sure if that was aimed at me but my post was in the nature of anecdotal and mildly flippant and not meant to be taken particularly seriously.

Stolly said:
Nonsense...the small two seat biplane aircraft used in Iraq at the time were not capable of "carpet bombing" anything.
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In the scale of things it was, cities and villages were much smaller typically then.
 
zoomee said:
America's involvement - hmmmmmm.
This pic been doin the round recently:

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lol my comments were with reference to the mujaheddin fighting the Russians which the Americans help fund directly or indirectly. Not sure why that photo was quoted if you thought I meant currently with everything going on.

Charlie Wilsons War its worth a watch.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Actually I do because there are lots of them. I'm not kidding when I say all over reddit. Every time there is a conversation about service personnel it turns into a discussion of disillusionment. You really think they are all happy to be in Iraq for over a decade getting blown up and seeing their brothers in arms die for a cause none of them believe in nor believe to be the truth?
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I think a lot of the disillusionment is to do with US society rather than the Iraq war. They come back from the war then see fellow veterans who they served with sleeping rough on the streets, others who can't afford medical bills, rampant gang warfare in the areas where they live (normally white, working class areas). US society can be quite brutal. I think we in the UK don't treat our veterans as good as we should, but we're light years ahead of the way the US treats theirs.
 
61 chapters across the US.

And flag burning is the epitome of disillusionment. Especially in this discussion about US soldiers that may have defected to IS.

Are you done side tracking yet?
 
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