*** The Official Playstation 4 (PS4) Thread ***

Quinn - so you are saying sometimes it doesnt take an age for a message to send or receive or the player list to show up?

I think this is a very common issue... especially when in a game

Sorry I meant in game connection. Yeah the slow invites, friends list and all the rest of it are really ******* me off
 
Sony have nothing left at the moment to invest into Playstation. They are loosing money across all of their brands at quiet a staggering rate. They announced a Y550 million loss projected at the beginning of the year which has now been announced as a Y2.1 Billion loss.

They have nothing that is making them enough money to cover the loses and their future is not looking too good right now.

I hope they get something sorted but the latest reports are not promising.

I think you are over exaggerating the situation, the actual PlayStation division is MAKING money. The TV and PC division were making losses, they have pretty much cut them loose. Their mobile phones are not selling as predicted but again not making huge losses. Worst case scenario is they sell the PS brand and somebody like Amazon or Apple purchases them. Nintendo have stacks of cash.......:p
 
Sony have nothing left at the moment to invest into Playstation. They are loosing money across all of their brands at quiet a staggering rate. They announced a Y550 million loss projected at the beginning of the year which has now been announced as a Y2.1 Billion loss.

They have nothing that is making them enough money to cover the loses and their future is not looking too good right now.

I hope they get something sorted but the latest reports are not promising.

They need a sprinkle of Disney magic.
 
So up and down ever since "+" came about on PS3 isn't longterm?

Back then folk (myself included) defended it saying "You can't really complain as it is a FREE service......." Well it's not free anymore and first hand experiance tells me it's not getting any better.

I Would like to think subs went towards improving the service, the last 10months have proven otherwise.
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Like you said, it was free, so that's completely unrelated. The demand on PSN since PS4 must be massive considering how well the console has done since launch. I can forgive them having issues due to that. I can't forgive if it lasts forever though. I hope it will settle.
 
I think you are over exaggerating the situation, the actual PlayStation division is MAKING money. The TV and PC division were making losses, they have pretty much cut them loose. Their mobile phones are not selling as predicted but again not making huge losses. Worst case scenario is they sell the PS brand and somebody like Amazon or Apple purchases them. Nintendo have stacks of cash.......:p
i don't think it is a exaggeration,the gaming part of sony is not that big,yeah the ps4 is doing great but the vita is not and i don't think sony can afford to any more money into the ps to make things like the network side of things better :( they are trying to squeeze every last dime out of its console and ps+ subs.the network was dreadful on ps3 and its still the same on ps4 but now they are charging for it,but they got away with it for years and will try to get away with it for a few more.i hope I'm proven wrong as i love ps i also love xb but the difference we have seen so far after a year is ms is throwing money all over the place to improve what they have whilst the whole time sony are sitting grinning telling everyone on twitter how great they are and how many sales they have had while there servers are down angering lots of fans.
 
I think you are over exaggerating the situation, the actual PlayStation division is MAKING money. The TV and PC division were making losses, they have pretty much cut them loose. Their mobile phones are not selling as predicted but again not making huge losses. Worst case scenario is they sell the PS brand and somebody like Amazon or Apple purchases them. Nintendo have stacks of cash.......:p

I'm not exaggerating it's easily readable on the internet. Sony are struggling financially as a company. They have no one brand that is making them enough profit to cover the losses. Playstation is profitable but it's not covering everything else.

When MS had server issues on live they just threw a few billion $ at it upgrading all the servers. Sony do not have the funds to do this and tbh is why I think there have been so many issues with PSN.
 
Sony have nothing left at the moment to invest into Playstation. They are loosing money across all of their brands at quiet a staggering rate. They announced a Y550 million loss projected at the beginning of the year which has now been announced as a Y2.1 Billion loss.

They have nothing that is making them enough money to cover the loses and their future is not looking too good right now.

I hope they get something sorted but the latest reports are not promising.

Playstation is a different division and would keep going even if sony's other elements dwindled down to zero. I would gues that sony's network problems are due to demand, in the biggest markets the PS4 is caning the xbone. Who would want to buy MS's underpowered microtransaction box anyway? the xb1 is already too slow for 1080p how will it cope with future generations of games? Stuff ms and their m\arketing, rather than makes development original and exciting it's all about the supposed feelgood factor of having a game a week early or whatever. Total BS.
 
Who would want to buy MS's underpowered microtransaction box anyway? the xb1 is already too slow for 1080p how will it cope with future generations of games? Stuff ms and their m\arketing, rather than makes development original and exciting it's all about the supposed feelgood factor of having a game a week early or whatever. Total BS.

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Tbh I think it would be superb if Disney acquired Playstation. :)

Really? And yet you're only bringing this up now?

Why don't Sony and MS release updated versions of their consoles every year, not just slimmer quieter but actually upgraded gfx and processor?

The market would not respond well to that and it'd end up more like PC gaming where you're having to cater for various different systems at a time.

A lot of developers only found out the final specs of the current consoles at the last minute; having to design games for a set of constantly changing goalposts would be a nightmare for them.

Plus there's the fact that a games console is a hugely expensive thing to design and develop, so the easiest way to recoup the costs and turn a profit is to continue that same core design (albeit with refinements) and sell it for a few years at a time.
 
Playstation is a different division and would keep going even if sony's other elements dwindled down to zero. I would gues that sony's network problems are due to demand, in the biggest markets the PS4 is caning the xbone. Who would want to buy MS's underpowered microtransaction box anyway? the xb1 is already too slow for 1080p how will it cope with future generations of games? Stuff ms and their m\arketing, rather than makes development original and exciting it's all about the supposed feelgood factor of having a game a week early or whatever. Total BS.

Yeah I'm not sure you understand how things work here tbh.

Look at the Dreamcast it was technically superior to the PS2 but it failed due to Sega not having the financial Kahunas that Sony had then to support the system.

I own both systems and I'm split 50/50 usage wise and think both are great tbh. But the old "But it's more powerful" argument really means nothing if the company supporting it is going downhill faster than an Olympic skier with rocket skis.

As I said look at Dreamcast..
 
Yeah I'm not sure you understand how things work here tbh.

Look at the Dreamcast it was technically superior to the PS2 but it failed due to Sega not having the financial Kahunas that Sony had then to support the system.

I own both systems and I'm split 50/50 usage wise and think both are great tbh. But the old "But it's more powerful" argument really means nothing if the company supporting it is going downhill faster than an Olympic skier with rocket skis.

As I said look at Dreamcast..

Wrong dude, PS2 was far ahead of the DC technically. rest of what you said is your typical trollage. XB1 is underpowered compared to the ps4 no gettin gaway from it, ms have a marketing plan but a poor console.
 
rest of what you said is your typical trollage.

No idea what that means ? Edit - Looking at your post history it is obvious you do not like the Xbox one or me for that matter :)

I was using Dreamcast as an example to show what happens to a decent system when the company cannot financially support it. I'm not arguing specs PS4 vs Xbox one as tbh I could not care less. I'm discussing how Sony's very public financial issues are going to affect Playstation and ultimately PS4.
 
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Look at the Dreamcast it was technically superior to the PS2 but it failed due to Sega not having the financial Kahunas that Sony had then to support the system.

It failed because in trying to get out before the PS2, they ended up competing with the previous gen instead and couldn't attract developers that Sony had already won over with the PS1. A lot of the Dreamcast's failure rests on the shoulders of the Saturn; the Sony brand was far more exciting at that time and Sega's move to 'try again' so soon would have alienated a lot of customers. Sony threw money into the SCE division to get games and it worked.

It wasn't technically superior either; slower CPU, less RAM, and a lower-capacity disc format.

This would only be a fair comparison if the Dreamcast had been the more powerful and more commercially successful console at the time of its demise; it was neither.
 
Look at the Dreamcast it was technically superior to the PS2 but it failed due to Sega not having the financial Kahunas that Sony had then to support the system.


As I said look at Dreamcast..

In what areas do you think the DC was more powerful in? (Not trolling - I never had a Dreamcast so no first hand experience).

I imagine it would be easier to program for than the PS2 (same problem the PS3's cell suffered from) - but in terms of raw available power the PS2 probably had the edge in most areas.

Sony's marketing budget and hype-train no doubt came into play - however Sega also made some unlucky and ill thought out decisions such as going with GD-Rom over DVD due to initial costs of disks or not having 2 analog sticks which limits certain genres.
 
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