what's making all the girls/women join isis?

Kids will be kids they'll join anything to rebel at the establishment. When I that age it was all anti poll tax and anti fox hunting. They don't think through and can't really envisage consequences or the scale of consequences and by and large a great number are very very impressionable and get wrapped up and easily follow friends, love or causes. Add into that mix some people (who recruit them for ISIS or encourage them to go) who can be very persuasive and manipulative then it is hardly shocking they go off on what they consider a good idea at the time without thinking any of it through. Add into that a undercurrent of sympathy in Muslim people for the suffering of certain populations even if they don't tacitly support the actions of ISIS and you have a potential brake to the process removed.
 
The same type of delusional lyrics can be found in the Bible.

"And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed."

yup... fortunately there don't seem to be as many fundamentalists (at least not directly*)causing the same sorts of issues as ISIS

though there are of course issues with young earth creationism, opposition to abortion, opposition to homosexuality, opposition to stem cell research, and even some guy in America who tried to propose a law to change the value of pi

*arguably opposition to contraception is not exactly helping with the spread of AIDS in Africa and potentially more harmful in terms of the resulting death toll

Religious fundamentalists in general are a big problem...
 
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Most of the stupidest parts of the Bible comes from the Old Testament, which is basically the Jewish Torah, funny how no one has a go at them for fear of being called anti-semite.

The New Testament, which is supersedes the Old is where real Christianity comes in. And the angriest he ever got was over turning some tables in a temple, he kicked ass that day :D

 
No it's people, not religion. If religion never existed they would still hate, just using a different vessel instead. As others have said, religion is an excuse, take that away and another excuse will be used.

Truth.

A lot of these terrorists are converts to Islam anyway. I've seen a considerable amount myself, which just backs up this idea.
 

not really but thanks for taking the time to type 4 letters with your head mounted pointy stick onto the keyboard.

I agree with others that one is too many, but the attack in the press on Muslims now is getting silly. Most these article are just plain sensationalism designed to instil fear in westerners.

its still all about oil in the end.
 
not really but thanks for taking the time to type 4 letters with your head mounted pointy stick onto the keyboard.

I'd remove that if i were you, we do have a member of these forums with sever mobility problems of that ilk. You should see how he uses a mouse to play games, he's amazing
 
Brainwashed ones.
The only brainwashing happening is when idiots pay attention to the biased media reports.
Everyone needs to stop believing all the crap we are being told about that part of the world, when the truth is they just want rid of Assad and are trying to justify an invasion, just as they failed to do a couple years ago.
 
Most of the stupidest parts of the Bible comes from the Old Testament, which is basically the Jewish Torah, funny how no one has a go at them for fear of being called anti-semite.

The New Testament, which is supersedes the Old is where real Christianity comes in. And the angriest he ever got was over turning some tables in a temple, he kicked ass that day :D

the crazy bits in Leviticus also do not apply to Christians as they are not the tribe of israel.

so people who quote them and go "look Christians have crazy laws too are wide of the mark.

its in the bible but it's more like a history lesson, an example of a past that went wrong and why change was needed.


It's kinda like picking up a history text book in a uk school that goes into detail about the nazis and saying that therefore British children are being taught to uphold nazi values.
 
I'd remove that if i were you, we do have a member of these forums with sever mobility problems of that ilk. You should see how he uses a mouse to play games, he's amazing

wow so no relation to their specific disability, but yes il remove something you quoted, perhaps i should just return the derp to you ... :rolleyes:

but why so sensitive? are you a lefty doo gooder or a fair weather ukiper? Stop being so PC, its what got hudds into a mess and the rest of the country, You of all people should know better.

I have nothing against the disabled in fact i even hate that term which makes people out to be different, but I also know those people don’t like being patronised either and can take a joke.

moving on ...
 
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well yes... I was assuming it wouldn't be new information to you that fundamentalists point to certain parts of the Quran as justification for their actions... I've been reluctant to post any as I've already pointed out that a lot of it is contentious and it is quite easy to dismiss as having a different meaning or being out of context and actually should be interpreted as x etc....

The behaviour of mohammed himself too can be cited - it isn't as though he didn't murder captives, take women as concubines etc... (and obviously there are also moderate objections about this to with regards to context etc..etc..etc..)
If you're genuinely saying that you're unaware that there are contentious passages in the Quran that are used by fundamentalists and you want me to cite examples then here are two that may be used as an example - there are plenty more...

4:24 could be used to justify sex slaves


5:33 could be used for justifying executions of people opposed to them:


And before anyone starts saying 'oh but those don't mean x' true Islam is blah blah blah, academics have consensus that this means blah etc..etc..... yes I know there are different interpretations.

What i was asking for is the justification of killing muslim civillians....i do not see the above quotes doing that.
 
Why do YT videos from the Middle East always feature people shouting about Allan's Snackbar? If we find out what this Allan is putting in his sandwiches to drive the locals into religious frenzy, I reckon we could knock this Jihad fad on the head sharpish.
 
Why do YT videos from the Middle East always feature people shouting about Allan's Snackbar? If we find out what this Allan is putting in his sandwiches to drive the locals into religious frenzy, I reckon we could knock this Jihad fad on the head sharpish.

I guess this is why most the muslims have stopped replying to these kind of threads....keeping the threads going is just for the sake of muslim bashing.
 
I guess this is why most the muslims have stopped replying to these kind of threads....keeping the threads going is just for the sake of muslim bashing.

Which also gives people a convenient cop-out and a get out of jail free card when it comes to addressing actual issues.
 
Which also gives people a convenient cop-out and a get out of jail free card when it comes to addressing actual issues.


You want these issues addressing but you want to be able to insult and mock at will yet the other party needs to remain civilized and stay here to answer your questions ?
 
What i was asking for is the justification of killing muslim civillians....i do not see the above quotes doing that.

You perhaps need to be clearer about what you're asking for...

And what killings exactly? Punishments under their interpretation of sharia law? Killings of people who oppose them? They've framed people who oppose them as non believers.... I think this has already been mentioned...

As for them dishing out their version of sharia law.. you're unaware of punishments for adultery etc.. in Islam?
 
I'm asking for the justification(in the Quran) of killing muslim civilians who have not committed crimes and are not on trial.

the guys who's towns isis invade and decide to kill and loot.

i want islamic justification of your guess at what isis is doing from the Quran.


one other point.

the guys who have said isis are not muslims ....you rejected
yet you're saying isis have decided they are not muslims so islamically that makes it just.

do you not see the double standard you have set ?
 
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