It varies from game to game, on some games the 980s are very rapid and some they are poor @4K. I suspect the same goes for the different settings that reviewers use too.
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NVIDIA’s Tom Peterson explains 4K resolution and how GeForce GTX is the best choice to power 4K gami
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It varies from game to game, on some games the 980s are very rapid and some they are poor @4K. I suspect the same goes for the different settings that reviewers use too.
From a value for money pov those guys that shelled out £800+ on titans have done very well out of it, we were all near sick at the price of it, but for those who went for it will be having the last laugh, it's 2 years old in February and still very relevant at every resolution.
Well, all I can add is that I have tried running nVidia cards at 4K and it was absolutely flawless. I ran two, two year old Titans that really did cope well. No running out of VRAM there, smooth gameplay and a true visual feast to behold.
Scenario dependant paul.
2x7950@£380, smashed it out the park at any res, vram wasn't an issue-no games pushed the vram at any res out with H AB max MSAA.
2X7950 sold for £300, 290X bought for £320 and equalled it every step of the way, gaming at half the price of Titan.
Titan has lasted but (much)cheaper alternatives lasted too.
2x7950@£380, smashed it out the park at any res, vram wasn't an issue-no games pushed the vram at any res out with H AB max MSAA.
2X7950 sold for £300, 290X bought for £320 and equalled it every step of the way, gaming at half the price of Titan.
Titan has lasted but (much)cheaper alternatives lasted too.
You brought up the price-that's an 'agenda', I countered it with another 'agenda'.
Aplogies for having an opinion that doesn't comply your 'agenda' greg.
The 780 6GB didn't cost the earth and back to your point, you would be sitting with 4x7950s to run current games but stuttering like a goodun because you don't have the VRAM, whereas Titans/780 6GBs are still going, so regardless of price, that is neither here nor there for current games.
How has it lasted if your on a different set of cards now? If you were still on your 7950's i would agree with you but your not and i doubt those cards would like 4k maxed vram wise
Thats not saying 7900 series weren't great cards they indeed were and still a powerful combo But for you they havent lasted
'Back to your point' but, but, 4X7950's...
Never came into it from my pov-read it again.
Faster then, equal now = performance cost HALF the price-that's my point, as I said, 'Scenario dependant'.
You value your Titans in your scenario, but that doesn't mean it counts for every other setup up too with your initial one shoe fits all comment.
I can re-produce the 4k stuttering with the 980s using 1080p oversampling in BF4. Even when it is spiting out high fps. The card does not run out of vram. It happens if the card is over-clocked, under-clocked.
Although not playable for me, my best card can spit out around 40-60fps in BF4 singleplayer @ 4k resolution. Thats running 1580/2000.
I can make the card choke though, Sniper Elite 3 using 4k and then oversample kills performance.
I think the former is a driver problem and the latter just running out of bus bandwidth. This is because Firestrike Extreme works perfectly fine and produces good results with low frame-times and no stutter.
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You seriously make no sense at times and I struggle to understand what you are driving at....
Trying to decipher your comment, if I pointed at "one shoe fits all", surely I would have only said Titans? But I didn't now did I, as I also mention 780 6GBs and that is a pair right there. Maybe read before posting nonsense?
Now then, back to what I was saying via 7950s, you can not turn the details up enough to allow 4 7950s to stretch their legs at 4K, as they will clearly run out of VRAM in a number of games and that even includes some older games (Far Cry 3 for instance). You said a pair of 7950s, now if you had watched the video, Tom talks about Pixels per degree of vision and in a typical scenario, you are sat at roughly 20" from your screen and 4K gives you 35.6 of a possible 50 PPD that the human eyes can see, so when people say "But you don't need all that AA because your eyes can't see it", well research has proven that we can and in fact, can see more as well.
So if you bought 2x7950s or even 4x 7950s and play at 4K, you would need to turn the settings down and in turn, this is lowering your gaming visual experience. With Titans/Titan Blacks/780 6GBs/290X 8GBs, you will have enough VRAM to experience 4K at its ultimate setting and using my self as a case point, I want to see the pretties and I don't like to compromise.
These are basics that I thought you would know, as you have been beating the VRAM drum long enough now.
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If Tommy had a point he'd still be using his 7950s
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hmmmmmmmm love my 7950's, still awesome cards and really pack a huge punch at lower res. But I would never dream of throwing them at 4k, 1440p the limit on 2 I'd say.
I love it... so basically:
"YEAH, buy 2x outrageously expensive GPU's totalling 800GBP to support a resolution for which they will be likely be inadequate to power the latest graphically intensive games in around a year!"
lol...
"YEAH, buy 2x outrageously expensive GPU's totalling 800GBP to support a resolution for which they will be likely be inadequate to power the latest graphically intensive games in around a year!"
lol...
Good point
If you wanted to turn settings down, they would cope but you would be missing out on visuals. In static images, I could tell easily when there was AA on and off and the more you supplied, the better the image quality. A little harder when moving but fences and walls at the side of the screen would still show some jaggies.
I don't consider £400 each expensive in truth. Price is subjective though and that is down to the buyers own spare cash.
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What's expensive for some isn't for others...
The funny thing is, the people who jumped on the titans earlier have the last laugh.
It is, looking from a coldly analytical point of view, expensive for hardware with an approximate 12-18 month lifecycle, that even in SLI mode is only "just" pushing a resolution that we are still a few years away from having the GPU power to comfortably push 60+fps with a single GPU, in current-generation graphically intense games, with all the bells and whistles enabled. Objectively speaking, return in performance on the pound is appalling from that angle, regardless of your personal perspective of how much it is worth to you as an individual.
This 4k mania is simply a way of pushing a gaming standard well before it is mature, in order to cash in on the top 0.005% of PC gamer elite who will run out and buy it regardless. It's a little nuts imo.
I have had 2 Titans for nearly 2 years and bought the 3rd for a very good price a few months back and I can game at 4K with no issues. I still expect to be saying the same, this time next year.
Is there another GPU other than the 780 6GB that can say the same?