Justified or gun happy?

Davepen said:
You are forgetting one vital point.

This kid was 12.

12 years old.

Did you not run around with cap guns when you were 12 firing them and pretending to be army? I know I did.
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12 is quite old enough to be getting involved in street gangs! Indeed it is about the age at which I would expect most new gang members to be recruited.

(And then tested by being given **** jobs to do to see how well they perform them)
 
So the child was shot within 2 seconds of the cop getting out of the car.

Wow. Should've just shot him from the car, it'd save him getting his shoes muddy.
 
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wordy said:
So the child was shot within 2 seconds of the cop getting out of the car.

Wow. Should just shot him from the car, it'd save him getting his shoes muddy.
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Indeed. Just saw the footage myself. Barely even time for a word to be said, there!

Then again, I do sympathise somewhat with the police in the US.

The fact that any gun that you see in someone's hand could be real, and all too many are more than willing to use it... well, it leaves them all in a perpetual state of fear.

You have people with guns on the street that are scared of the police, police officers scared that everybody they speak to could be packing a weapon and it's a recipe for itchy trigger finger disaster.

I certainly wouldn't want to be wearing a badge over there. No bloody way in hell.

Saw a video recently where a US cop shot at an elderly gentleman after a routine road stop, because the guy had reached into the bed of his truck to retrieve his cane. Cop thought it was a shotgun, opened fire on the old bloke about six times but -- thankfully -- only succeded in blowing his finger off.

Everything afterwards is caught on camera/audio, with the cop breaking down after backup arrived and the old bloke started having panic-induced cardiac symptoms. He just kept crying, "God forgive me, I thought it was a shotgun". So utterly distraught over what he'd done.

But 'murica needs its guns, or it just can't feel safe. From the thugs, from the cops, from the politicians, and from itself.
 
Davepen said:
You are forgetting one vital point.

This kid was 12.

12 years old.

Did you not run around with cap guns when you were 12 firing them and pretending to be army? I know I did.
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Sure we all probably had cap guns as kids, but pull a cap gun on an armed officer you run the risk of getting shot. Different in mainland uk were armed officers are very rarely seen outside of airports etc. Do that in northern ireland were cops are carrying at the very least a heckler and koch mp5 sub machine gun, yes you would run an extremely high chance of being shot.
 
MP5 in NI is for response units. General officers carry a Glock 15.

Still, you can guarantee there'd be more time offered for a response from the suspect before opening fire than you had here.
 
Watched the brief video on Channel 4 news last night and in it the police car has barely stopped before the kid drops to the ground. So how the cops called for him to drop the weapon three times before shooting him is a little puzzling.
 
cheesyboy said:
The scary thing about this, in light of the video, is that the police were willing to shoot a child in the face without even seeing a gun - just on the back of a report from a member of the public and the child moving his hand toward his waistband.
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Yea, they shot him in the face.
 
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