Shooting at French Satirical Magazine

olivier renault said:
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just tweeted this to Choudary,let's see what he has to say. :p
 
dowie said:
Of the various religions in the world how many currently call for death for insulting a diety and/or blasphemy.

IIRC Christianity used to be a bit backwards in that regards but these days has progressed a bit.
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Well quite. The moderates in Christianity won out, and eventually secularism did. Though my argument would be that we now just follow a different "god", that of celebrity, consumerism and narcissim, but thats a different argument.

We just need the same to happen in Islam.
 
jkb said:
Christianity didn't used to be moderate, the catholic church tortured and killed scientists and anyone else who threatened their power. They also butchered a lot of the indigenous people of South America who wouldn't convert to catholicism.
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Of course, exactly my point.
Will21st said:
at least the french police have the means to return fire,albeit not necessarily in a successful manner. Does a Bobby have the same chance... the public doesn't for obvious reasons.

Remember that our police is supposed to be our defence,and if the public is mandated to be unarmed then I at the very least expect an appropriately armed police force.

Ours is not,at least not for me.
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Unless we institute a very radical policy, our police won't be walking around with assault rifles and RPGs. Therefore, the best we can hope for are small arms, which evidently do not deter terrorists. As our police have non-lethal arms, there's a chance the terrorists will not kill them at a distance as they don't pose the same threat as a lethally-armed officer does. This leaves proper armed response to our exceptionally well trained specialist teams. This is partly why the number of officers who are shot and killed in the UK is virtually nil.
 
elrasho said:
Both Public figures hence the press coverage, I was referring to Joe public. Real enough for ya?
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You never stipulated that there was parameters to your statement of 'you never hear of non-muslim child grooming'....

so if its a white high profile person this doesnt count? Feel free to search media databases for child abuse cases that meet your criteria. You will find that the majority is 'non muslim.'
 
PMKeates said:
Of course, exactly my point.Unless we institute a very radical policy, our police won't be walking around with assault rifles and RPGs. Therefore, the best we can hope for are small arms, which evidently do not deter terrorists. As our police have non-lethal arms, there's a chance the terrorists will not kill them at a distance as they don't pose the same threat as a lethally-armed officer does. This leaves proper armed response to our exceptionally well trained specialist teams. This is partly why the number of officers who are shot and killed in the UK is virtually nil.
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Is that the same line of argument as the crooks aren't armed because the police isn't? I'd wager the shooting in case of an attack will be pretty indiscriminate.
 
Moses said:
Why not go to central Berlin and goose step around, whilst doing the Nazi salute and singing the older style German national anthem? It's just freedom of expression, innit ;).
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and you can indeed do that as long as it is meant as a joke/satire/comedic expression. ;)
 
Despicable act of terrorism.

Hopefully one day this will end. :(

However no one has pointed out that it is against their religion to draw pictures of Allah and Muhammad. Which I'm guessing this magazine does?

Unfortunately this is a clash of ideologies. We live in the west in a democratic society, where the press has freedom to express them self. They live in a world where the religion is the basis of their society. Their religion is the law. The religion says you can not draw depictions of Allah and Muhammad.

It's a difficult one. Because on the one hand, the French should be a bit more sympathetic and realise that they should not be doing this as it against Islam, but at the other spectrum, allowing such pressures to change the things the press produces is censorship and a form of fascism.

This is why this is a HUGE problem. It's a clash on every level from society, culture to religions.
 
They are now returning kids from school trips all over France and banning any further outings.

They have just said they rushing armed police officers to defend schools as they fear a hostage situation may be the next phase of the attack.
 
oulton said:
I suggest highly trained.
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Yes, very highly. And we probably trained them and they are more than likely working for the establishment.
I'm betting another false flag to spread fear and hatred, in order to attack other countries in the name of terrorism, with full public support.
There is a reason the word "terroism" is being thrown at us from every angle these days.
 
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