Shooting at French Satirical Magazine

[Josh]

I know exactly when they'll go in, between 5 and 8 tonight when I'm at work so I miss it.

Exact? You gave a 3h window lol

Lets hope Rainbow 6 are availible for the hostage rescue, failing that the A-Team.

 

[Dickyb0b]

i bet this is what there doing is making the whole police force go to 1 location while they can do more planned attacks in other locations

 

[Clum]

I wonder if theres any significance to the police putting so much effort into evacuating the nearby civilians. Perhaps there is a threat greater than a some small arms?

 

[Craterloads]

If it is Mumbai style attack it makes sense why they didn't go in suicide style in the initial attack. Perhaps the plan was to escape and join back up with a cell and stage 2 of the attack can begin.

 

[TheMightyTen]

I read he was the step brother and handed himself in after his name was on social media as being involved.

And many rumours of seemingly genuine social media accounts from class mates claiming he was in class with them in college at the time of the shootings.

 

[ghutchison14078]

His post wasn't really concerning terrorists though. It was more like British Muslims protesting for more muslim oriented rules.

Yep, they can all 'do one'

Don't want any muslim orientated rules in the UK

 

[Amp34]

Not going to derail the thread but the hostage taker hadn't escalated the situation by killing a hostage, flying special forces in is better than sending in the police and there being civilian casualties, just as there were.

You'll probably find the anti terror/hostage police were trained by and regularly train with the SAS. They would use the same tactics but one has authority to arrest and kill in country and the other would require an executive order (as the SAS did in the Iranian Embassy siege here).

 

[Amp34]

It's true actually.

The one hallmark of the ignorant I've noticed throughout life is a lack of nuance in thought & perspective.

Everything to them is an integer - decimals are nowhere to be seen.

It of course makes sense, it takes far less cognitive effort than to see the world in all it's complexity with linking & emergent systems - it's far easily to ascribe dualism based thinking to every single facet of life .

Agreed, realising everything is a shade of grey rather than there just being black and white seems to escape many people.

It's the whole "with us or against us" mantra.

 

[CREATIVE!11]

I don't think it is fair to say Islam is evil.

I just need to look at what kind of values it preaches to know what I think about it.

 

[Amp34]

You didn't vist London during the Olympics then?

I work in central London. Other than a few strategically placed missile systems all the military were used in unarmed civilian security roles AFAIK.

 

[leaskovski]

So what happened to this third terrorist in the hebdo offices attack, I thought there was three terrorists involved in that or so I thought?

He was a kid who was in school at the time of the attack. The vids only show 2 attackers?

 

[Skunkworks]

I’ll be very surprised if the hostage survives this. The gunmen will know this is over and will want to maximise the shock. I hope they have shut down mobile networks and the premises internet, or there’s a chance the hostage gets beheaded and the video distributed from there before the reaches its conclusion.

 

[chief barker]

I find it strange that the deputy Mayor of Paris said that this was France's 9/11 when interviewed this morning.

It's not even on the same scale unless this will escalate tremendously?

 

[Amp34]

New shooting going on...



In the UK at least the military have access to a much larger arsenal of weapons, different tactics etc.

Yet we use a dedicated anti terror police unit, set up in part due to the situation at the Iranian Embassy.

 

[oulton]

Originally Posted by elmarko View Post
It's true actually.

The one hallmark of the ignorant I've noticed throughout life is a lack of nuance in thought & perspective.

Everything to them is an integer - decimals are nowhere to be seen.

It of course makes sense, it takes far less cognitive effort than to see the world in all it's complexity with linking & emergent systems - it's far easily to ascribe dualism based thinking to every single facet of life .

Your post reads like the self indulgent fart sniffing of a wanna be intellectual.

 

[platypus]

I wonder what moderate muslims truthfully think of all this, I'm guessing probably quite happy the cartoonists were murdered.

Anything to back that ridiculous assertion up?

 

[Amp34]

Yep, they can all 'do one'

Don't want any muslim orientated rules in the UK

Personally I don't want any xenophobic ********* in the UK either, unfortunately that's not going to happen...

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Agreed, realising everything is a shade of grey rather than there just being black and white seems to escape many people.

It's the whole "with us or against us" mantra.

It's this mentality that has weakened Western civilization.

There may be shades of grey, its true. But a society cannot define itself by shades of grey, it needs black and white to set moral limits.

 

[cheesyboy]

It's this mentality that has weakened Western civilization.

There may be shades of grey, its true. But a society cannot define itself by shades of grey, it needs black and white to set moral limits.

Why does it need that?

 

[Craterloads]

Anything to back that ridiculous assertion up?

Careful he might do a robgmun and recall on how he "was" a Muslim and learnt all the evil ways first hand prior to escaping