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many muslim countries are actively engaged in rooting out these extremist groups, they too have had civilian and military casualties and it is an ongoing problem week in and week out, might I add that these extremist groups target anyone at any time, I mean india, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, turkey, Syria, iran, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, are majority muslim and yet they are being killed by these groups.

may I also say, I don't know what form if Islam they are following as, in Islam, suicide is prohibited and is a very serious sin, so is taking of innocent life that have nothing to do with military operations not matter what religion they are.

I agree with what you are saying that actions speak louder than words and as a Muslim, I feel that we need to teach people about our religion instead of explaining the in's and out's, for example I think we need open days at our mosques for all types of people to come In, explore, take part in activities, ask qualified scholars (imams) on questions that are a genuine worry and concern to people.

There is only one mosque is Glasgow that does this I think, Glasgow Central Mosque just across from the Glasgow Sherriff Court.
 
Exactly. Its not religion. Its the people who twist things to suit their beliefs and needs.
It is religion! Just because moderates and extremists disagree on whose interpretation of these fairy tales is the true one doesn't change the fact that these savages are slaughtering innocence in the name of their god!

Humanity needs to grow up!
 
Firstly, not all Muslims are scum.

Secondly, what do these FEMA camps actually do? Are they made for the housing exclusively of Muslims? If not, then they are by no means the same as what Hitler did.

FEMA camps are IIRC built by the US Emergency Management Agency, designed to provide things like emergency housing reasonably near to potential disaster zones in the States (IE hurricane, earthquake etc).
Some people have decided they're obviously concentration camps to deal with pesky citizens for various reasons (a common one is it's for when dem libs come to take r gunz), and the reasoning behind such thinking can be very amusing.
I've seen people claim that the large black plastic boxes left in the open are obviously for burying the bodies of those who protest too much, backing it up with the fact that FEMA has (surprisingly for an organisation that expects to deal with the aftermath of almost any disaster) a lot of body bags.
The fact the black boxes are the wrong size/shape for bodies (unless you're talking morbidly obese dwarves, and 7 foot anorexics), and look suspiciously like standard plumbing supplies (covered water tanks that can be set up in minutes) seems to pass them by.
 
FEMA camps are IIRC built by the US Emergency Management Agency, designed to provide things like emergency housing reasonably near to potential disaster zones in the States (IE hurricane, earthquake etc).
Some people have decided they're obviously concentration camps to deal with pesky citizens for various reasons (a common one is it's for when dem libs come to take r gunz), and the reasoning behind such thinking can be very amusing.
I've seen people claim that the large black plastic boxes left in the open are obviously for burying the bodies of those who protest too much, backing it up with the fact that FEMA has (surprisingly for an organisation that expects to deal with the aftermath of almost any disaster) a lot of body bags.
The fact the black boxes are the wrong size/shape for bodies (unless you're talking morbidly obese dwarves, and 7 foot anorexics), and look suspiciously like standard plumbing supplies (covered water tanks that can be set up in minutes) seems to pass them by.

The black boxes I believe are grave liners, as required by state legislation in the US. Its nothing to do with people being taken there in some population reducing myth, its just planning for major disasters and potential for mass casualty's as a result.

on topic, is Raza Nadim a member of this forum? I seem to remember this same argument being given some pages ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK1pdAiVZfQ
 
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I agree with what you are saying that actions speak louder than words and as a Muslim, I feel that we need to teach people about our religion instead of explaining the in's and out's, for example I think we need open days at our mosques for all types of people to come In, explore, take part in activities, ask qualified scholars (imams) on questions that are a genuine worry and concern to people.

There is only one mosque is Glasgow that does this I think, Glasgow Central Mosque just across from the Glasgow Sherriff Court.

teaching non-muslims about Islam might help stop the likes of EDL types etc.. from gaining ground however there are plenty of people out there with legitimate criticism of Islam

the reaction of muslims to criticisms of Islam and to percieved 'insults' to your prophet are in need of change too, muslim leaders don't seem to be doing much to address the issue - if anything they add to the issue as per the google protests - calling for changes in the law to protect religions etc.. lots of the just don't understand or agree with freedom of speech
 
teaching non-muslims about Islam might help stop the likes of EDL types etc.. from gaining ground however there are plenty of people out there with legitimate criticism of Islam

What about teaching Muslims to be more tolerant of western culture? That's it's not ok to be homophobic, misogynist or indeed xenophobic?
 
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The era of mass communication on TV and cheap mobile devices has led to the point where modern civilisation and medieval values can no longer comfortably co-exist.

I try to be open-minded and welcoming, but I have always struggled with accepting multi-cultural values which -- no matter how benign in theory -- are clearly from a different era of human development. And the older I've got, the more I've struggled.

This week I decided to stopped struggling. It has been both liberating and deeply, deeply depressing.
 
What about teaching Muslims to be more tolerant of western culture? That's it's not ok to be homophobic, misogynist or indeed xenophobic?

It works both ways but yes I do agree with this. Integrate, not segregate.

Multiculturalism hasn't worked very well really, time to work towards a common accepted social contract methinks.
 
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I find it a bit creepy.

Agreed.

For fairly obvious reasons I've watched loads of french news the last few days and there's been a veritable crowd of muslims condemning the outrage in no uncertain terms.

Wahabism was cooked up by a British agent when we were planning on nicking the oil countries off the Ottoman empire, it wasn't accidental that we had over a hundred divisions in Iraq while the french were desperately crying out for the Empire to put more men in France during ww1.
 
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Apology for 'Muslim-only Birmingham'

An American terrorism commentator speaking on Fox News has been forced to apologise for describing Birmingham as a "Muslim-only city" where non-Muslims "don't go in".

Steven Emerson said:
"I have clearly made a terrible error for which I am deeply sorry. My comments about Birmingham were totally in error."

He said he would be issuing an apology on his website for "this comment about the beautiful city of Birmingham".

You shouldn't fix one lie with another Steve :p
 
If it's western foreign policy that's fueling the global jihad, then why are Islamic militants attacking ordinary Nigerians in Nigeria? Did Nigeria send troops to Iraq, like France didn't? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-but-the-west-is-failing-to-help-9970355.html

Also, Aussie PM Tony Abbot is going to refer to the Islamic State as Daesh from now on, which will no doubt offend them. Presumably zoomee, CRAZY, Craterloads etc will be along to say he's fair game now: http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-daesh-instead-of-isil-for-death-cult-but-why
 
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