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Has anyone gone x99 ?

As always with these things - it is horse for courses, and each to their own. Yes there are cheaper and better chips/systems for pure gaming needs. X99 has a much broader appeal and usage - granted that DDR4 is way too expensive, but then new tech always is, but it does offer more bandwidth overall, and prices will fall once it becomes more mainstream. To me it is a hobby - an expensive one yes, but I just happen to enjoy new tech. This present system will have to last me though as initial expense was high, but I feel I have a very fast, balanced system that will handle anything and everything I throw at it with ease whilst being quiet as well.

There is no absolute right or wrong system - it very much depends on your usage, and how much you are willing or able to spend, and as I say each to their own.

Mark
 
easyrider said:
No performance using DDR 4 whatsoever

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Linus......

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Do yourself a favor. Dont listen to anything he has to say.
 
easyrider said:
There is no difference in games at 1333mhz DDR3 than there is with 3000mhz overclocked DDR4

Not sure what your mean?
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There is a decent difference in some games. Battlefield 4 is just one example:

http://www.corsair.com/en/blog/2013/october/battlefield-4-loves-high-speed-memory

Of course having more FPS in games is not the only advantage to DDR4. There's also the electricity saving (lower voltage), though I doubt many care about there.

More excitingly, there will be 16GB DDR4 dimms being released this year.

Granted, not many can afford a quad channel 16GB dimm kit (64GB total), though the enthusiast platform has always been about pushing the envelope.

In a few years time, we will need the higher memory capacities. I guess less than 1% need more than DDR3 can offer now, but this will change over the next few years.

GTA5 for example, recommends 8GB of memory alone, for what I assume are average settings. Maybe for High or Ultra, 10 or 12GB will be used? who knows.
 
Dave2150 said:
There is a decent difference in some games. Battlefield 4 is just one example:

http://www.corsair.com/en/blog/2013/october/battlefield-4-loves-high-speed-memory

Of course having more FPS in games is not the only advantage to DDR4. There's also the electricity saving (lower voltage), though I doubt many care about there.

More excitingly, there will be 16GB DDR4 dimms being released this year.

Granted, not many can afford a quad channel 16GB dimm kit (64GB total), though the enthusiast platform has always been about pushing the envelope.

In a few years time, we will need the higher memory capacities. I guess less than 1% need more than DDR3 can offer now, but this will change over the next few years.

GTA5 for example, recommends 8GB of memory alone, for what I assume are average settings. Maybe for High or Ultra, 10 or 12GB will be used? who knows.
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I noticed a huge difference in BF4 Multiplier running 2666 over 1600 memory
 
Well. after mulling it over since X99 came out I've decided to pull the trigger and replaced my 5 year old X58 setup.

Will post my thoughts when it's up and running.... :)
 
jonneymendoza said:
what if your current x58 is screwed and looking to build a pc?

now a x99 wont be such a daft move if funds permitted?
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If my X58 setup died going X99 would definitely be my choice. Would probably go 5960X as that cpu seems the best from the bunch and interests me the most being 8 core.

Funding X99 is no problem for me. All goes down as a company expense. ;)
 
ALXAndy said:
Early DDR of any type is crap and slow at launch. DDR3 was ridiculously expensive and some of it was like 1.8v with the worst timings ever.

When DDR4 can hit like 4ghz, then we'll be talking. But right now it's barely clocked any higher than top end DDR3.

DDR3 was the same. Compared to early 1066 DDR2 it was barely any better at the same speed or 1333mhz. Now though? it's settled in lovely.
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Comparing DDR3 to DDR4 at the same speed doesn't make any sense to me. The entire point of newer SDRAM technologies is to allow for higher clock speeds. It's not like a CPU where you can get higher IPC or anything. The other way of increasing bandwidth is to increase the number of channels available but we already knew from X58 that triple channel was barely an improvement, so it's no surprise that quad channel doesn't help much.

An actually useful test would be to compare faster DDR4 to standard DDR3 (say 1600 MHz) in both dual channel and quad channel. That'd show whether either the clock speed improvements or extra channels actually help in any real-world scenarios.
 
Dave2150 said:
Of course having more FPS in games is not the only advantage to DDR4. There's also the electricity saving (lower voltage)
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AS people pump extra volts through their CPU's and run them at 4.5ghz plus?

As people increase ram voltages to overclock their ram?

As people run Tri and Quad Sli to increase their FPS?



:p
 
Combat Fighter said:
But while my X58 platform is going strong I won't be upgrading it at the moment.
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Me neither...100 more points in Cinebench with the same clocked 4ghz 5820 against 6 year old X58 does not get me excited....;)

I'm waiting for Skylake....No way I would pour 800 + in a Mobo chip and ram combo then in JUNE not have a mobo I can just plonk Skylake in...:eek:

Really it it just goes to show how stagnant the CPU world is...There have been important developments in power usuage for laptops etc...

But when people are pumping more vcore in in gaming rigs...Power usage is a secondary concern...
 
^ Interested in Skylake as well, but the ones coming this year won't be able to be overclocked which is a shame. I guess at least if Skylake falls through at least x99 will be cheaper by then.
 
easyrider said:
Me neither...100 more points in Cinebench with the same clocked 4ghz 5820 against 6 year old X58 does not get me excited....;)

I'm waiting for Skylake....No way I would pour 800 + in a Mobo chip and ram combo then in JUNE not have a mobo I can just plonk Skylake in...:eek:

Really it it just goes to show how stagnant the CPU world is...There have been important developments in power usuage for laptops etc...

But when people are pumping more vcore in in gaming rigs...Power usage is a secondary concern...
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Well you've pretty much summed it up there.

I did point all of this out when X99 launched. IE - there's barely anything between X99 and X79 only to get my head bitten off.

All of that aside though I was right. Maybe they're smaller dies and yeah, maybe they use less power (not overclocked) but the advance here is certainly not balls out performance it's all about shrinking dies.

I love how people are posting on this forum thinking Broadwell and Skylake are intended for them.
 
jonneymendoza said:
apparently Broadwell is only for laptop devices. not desktops
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Then I guess X99 will remain the future as it were. Not faster chips but ones with more cores I assume.

It's only logical that Intel would have to stop at some point if there's no competition. What's the point pumping billions of dollars into R&D to create a product that is pointless.

Gaming wise we will settle in now. X86, 8 cores max, job done there I feel. Any old AMD CPU should be good enough for a few years yet.

It all kinda reminds me of the 80s when there was a crash due to a big fat brick wall. Sales slumped and we were only left with one or two computer manufacturers because the newer computers offered nothing over the existing ones and parents quickly grew wise to it.

Not only that but companies need to stop bolting needless tat to motherboards and cases that no one uses. IE - voltage check points etc etc. Only a tiny minority use that crap yet we are being bolted up for it also.
 
DavieJG said:
i7 5820k (crimbo cashback deal from competitor)
Asus X99 Deluxe (members market from W3bbo, review board i think)
Ripjaws 2666MHz C15
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If it's the deal i'm thinking about (Top tech cashback) you have to buy the CPU and Motherboard at the same time from the same retailer.

And prove it with a receipt or invoice.

I just claimed my £80 today.
 
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