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It's all about upper and lower limits and lies Iceshock.

All devices that are regulated are restricted. Some devices cannot go bellow a set voltage 3.2v-3.7v. A more expensive mod might have a lower limit of 1v. This is done in hardware.

All regulated devices have an upper limit this can vary wildly. 4.5v, 8v, 12v ect This is done on the DC boost circuit.

In both cases devices often lie. Not in a malicious way (unless it's a cloupor). But because the software and the hardware can have an overhang.

My device is an E-Holly 35W. It will go from 7W-35W and it will fire at 0.5 to 3 ohms. The E-holly can not set a voltage under 3.2v. And it can not set a voltage over 8v. On screen however this device appears to be able to fire below 3.2v because the screen and the wattage can move under that 3.2V limit.

This means my screen lies to me. If I put a 0.5 ohm coil on it then the lowest wattage I can pump out is about 20W's. Even if the device tells me it's 7W at 1.9v I know that the device will always be pushing 3.2v. So I can turn the wattage from 7W-20W and the vape is always going to be the same. The device will regulate between 20 and 35W like normal.

Upper limits are similar. If the device can only give 8v as a total output then regardless of what the screen says in advance of that it's a lie. So a 3 ohm coil on my device at 8v is 20W's. So at 3 ohms my device is only 7-20W's.

This calculator is a godsend as it will do the work for you if your in any doubts.

http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/watt-volt-amp-calculator.htm

The VAMO v6 is a 3-20W device. And the voltage limits are 3.0v - 6.0v.

The ohm range is 0.8 - 5 ohms.

So the 0.8ohm range is 11w - 20w
The 1.5ohm range is 6w - 20w
The 3 ohm range is 3w - 12w
The 5 ohm range is 3w - 7w

All the time the voltage is the limiting factor up to the point where the device hits it's wattage limit. So for the V6 1.5 ohms gives you the full range of wattage and the voltage sweet spot.

Ice shock, sigelei 100w.

http://www.ukecigstore.com/sigelei-100w-box-mod.html
 
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I see, that makes sense, so, why do box mods go to say 100w then if I had a coil @ 1.5ohms, that would be limited at 20w.

also that box mods bit too far outta my price range! considering I was looking at a v9 vamo 40w for 19 pounds.

Also, today on my mutation x rda, my 2nd day of testing it properly, iv just made a 1ohm dual coil, 30g kanthal, 2mm drill bit.

It seems a lot better than 0.8ohms by a long way, vapes nice and cooler, clouds still there.
 
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IceShock said:
Hey guys, can someone recommend me the cheapest box mod there is for the most amount of power and performance, but when I say cheapest not something that will fall apart in a week lol.

Gonna give the box mods a try, I want to know why everyone uses them :p

Also, id like it to have a lcd screen etc, not a mechanical box mod, a VW one.

Cheers :)
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I have just sent you an email :)

Cheers all
 
100w then if I had a coil @ 1.5ohms, that would be limited at 20w.
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Different devices have different upper limits.

so while the V6 can only do 3-6v, the 100W box mod might be able to do 3-8V

So at 0.15 ohms it's 60w (20 amps and the amp limit so no higher limit)
0.3 it's 30-100W (18 amps)
0.64 it's 14-100W (12.5 amps)
1 ohm it's 10-64W (8 amps)
1.5 it's 10-42W (5 amps)

My device Eholly tho it will do 8V is always limited to 35W in the software it's also got an amp limit as well.

If you want something cheaper have a look at the E-holly. It has a Yihi chipset in it and the device I have is flawless if a little bulky. It's also perfect for the subtank. 26mm body with a 25mm atty.

http://www.fasttech.com/product/1847002-e-holly-7-35w-variable-wattage-apv-mod
 
Guys am I allowed to advertise/sell vape gear on here? I cannot for the life in me get my kayfun 4 and 3.1 to work the way I want, there too complicated for me, so im sticking with a simple rda for experimenting and pro tank for dayly vaping.

there both boxed and minted hardly used think they've both had bowt 1 hr of total vaping use, but iv got no idea where to sell them and id want them to go to good guys like you who know how to use them, im guessing ebay is a waste of time because most people on there are clueless.

cheers
 
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Nope, it's not allowed (yet) :(

On another note, that VC recipe I posted via J.col turned out lovely after 2-3 weeks :) Gave some to a mate in his igo and he loved it.
Got another couple of batches brewing with some light additions chucked in, so yay!

How close is it to GVC? I dunno, it's been a while since I had any tbh.
 
Uncle Petey said:
Nope, it's not allowed (yet) :(

On another note, that VC recipe I posted via J.col turned out lovely after 2-3 weeks :) Gave some to a mate in his igo and he loved it.
Got another couple of batches brewing with some light additions chucked in, so yay!

How close is it to GVC? I dunno, it's been a while since I had any tbh.
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Oh aye, how much did you make? don't suppose you have 5ml or so spare for me to try :D

To date, iv vaped Hangsen ry4 for 18 months, I ordered 100ml bluestar ry4 about a month ago because its 8quid for 100ml which is cheaper than what I pay now, and I have the option to change my pg/vg ratios with them, with hangsen its 20%vg and 80%pg,

But cause iv smoked hangsen ry4 for 18 months well more almost 2 years, the moment I smelt the bluestar liquid, I was like ewwww, first drag, I ran to the sink and tipped it out so it didn't contaminate my protank.

But.... iv had a weird turn now, something to throw even more spanners into the works of what im aiming to do.

Like iv said before, what im aiming to do by messing around with stuff, well iv vaped the protank 2 mini for so long with ry4 with my own coils,

And now iv got these drippers and stuff, im trying to replicate the taste I get with the protank 2 mini, whilst vaping on a rda and having the fun with the big clouds etc, but tonight, I took my single coil rda the little cheap-o one for 2 quid, tipped some of this bluestar liquid in, and jesus, it vapes absolutely beautifully on a rda compaired to the hangsen stuff. might be because im at 70%pg and 30%vg, but im tempted to order some 50%vg50%pg to try it.

Edit: well no actually, I was going to buy 100ml of 30pg/70vg, because I already have 100ml of 70pg/30vg, then I can mix my own ratios into bottles from it and see what I like as far as pg/vg goes, that's one area iv not gone yet, and iv got all these fancy coils and rdas going on, iv not stopped to actually try different liquids yet cause I was hooked one on flavour, and only that flavour would do

I want to experiment with flavours aswell as coils and rdas etc, until today I was hooked one one flavour and that would only do, but now today another whole can of worms has been opened, I want to experience these flavours lol.


Edit2: Just ordered 100ml of same eliquid from bluestar ry4, which isn't my usual flavour, but if I can get used to that ry4 for 24/7, then etleast I can get used to different pg vg mixes, Iv got about 80ml of 70pg/30vg left, and iv ordered 100ml of 70vg/30/pg, and iv got countless 10ml bottles laying around, I can mix them all different, find the ratio I like, and bobs your uncle, can experiment more with coils then see which ohms and power brings out the flavour to my liking more, then once iv found that, I know what ratio to order in the future :)
 
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IceShock said:
Oh aye, how much did you make? don't suppose you have 5ml or so spare for me to try :D
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Mate, if I'd posted this yesterday or the day before when I had 30ml of the stuff, that wouldn't have been a problem :)
I've been caning it since then and only have about 10ml left now...

I didn't want to make a big batch in case it wasn't all that, but you're welcome to a sample of the next lot, though it'll be a couple of weeks or so :)
 
Uncle Petey said:
Mate, if I'd posted this yesterday or the day before when I had 30ml of the stuff, that wouldn't have been a problem :)
I've been caning it since then and only have about 10ml left now...

I didn't want to make a big batch in case it wasn't all that, but you're welcome to a sample of the next lot, though it'll be a couple of weeks or so :)
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Yay thanks petey :D Can you drop me a email through trust when it is ready? I will sort you out for a tester of it :)

Cheers buddy :) also, you never showed me a picture of your mutation X and coils etc... Ahem, :p Don't care if you aint cleaned em, you had two days, no excuse ;) haha.
 
Don't worry about sorting me out for it. It's no biggie :)

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Although it vapes lovely, this build looks like arse tbh. Let me do a fresh build tomorrow and I'll get some pics up.
Honestly though, it'd look like the pic V_R posted (I think it was him) with the coils raised up a bit. Maybe not quite as perfect, but y'know... :D
 
Uncle Petey said:
Don't worry about sorting me out for it. It's no biggie :)

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Although it vapes lovely, this build looks like arse tbh. Let me do a fresh build tomorrow and I'll get some pics up.
Honestly though, it'd look like the pic V_R posted (I think it was him) with the coils raised up a bit. Maybe not quite as perfect, but y'know... :D
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Sweet :D I cant wait to test some and I cant wait to see a picture petey :p

Also, in your mutation X, the one you linked me that iv got on the way as we speak from Ft, what kanthal, wattage, wraps, diameter, etc all that job are you at? I want to try replicate it exactly to what you use, just to see what other people vape like, iv never ever tried to 100% copy someone elses build before, it would be interesting :)

Thanks :D
 
You'll need a new mod for that mate :)
I can't remember all the details off the top of my head, but it's an 0.25 build with 24g kanthal and I vape at 40-45w.

Considering you like a cooler vape, it's probably not your style. I like my custard warm :)
 
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Uncle Petey said:
You'll need a new mod for that mate :)
I can't remember all the details off the top of my head, but it's an 0.25 build with 24g kanthal and I vape at 40-45w.

Considering you like a cooler vape, it's probably not your style. I like my custard warm :)
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Well I might have a 100w box mod on the way tomorrow :D and when the mutation x arrives that you linked I'll have that one plus the one I already had but modified, so I'll be able to give it a go. And aye I do like a cool vape, but to get the cool vape I like, I don't like it airy at all but not restricted haha! so it's really difficult for me to find what I like. But I'm always up for trying new things :) and it would be great to replicate and see what sort of a vape you are experiencing
 
Well, in that case, you'll be rocking an identical mod/atty combo :D Sigelei I presume?
'Airy' can be very subjective tbh. I have the mx2 with just the first three airholes closed and I don't find it too airy with a nice warm vape and full of flavour, but that's me.
Also, the vape I'm enjoying with this build/combo may be horrible to some people too. The same goes for the custard mix. You may find it a bit sweet or sickly perhaps. I dunno.

This may be up your street: https://www.fasttech.com/products/3028/10011955/2056506 A or B version. Easy to build, doesn't look too airy and great for flavour. Probably a warm one though.
Still waiting for mine...
 
IceShock said:
Guys am I allowed to advertise/sell vape gear on here? I cannot for the life in me get my kayfun 4 and 3.1 to work the way I want, there too complicated for me, so im sticking with a simple rda for experimenting and pro tank for dayly vaping.

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By reading your other posts, you might want to try a heavier VG juice, it will make the juice thicker and may stop flooding. Even when I use a high PG juice, in anything CE4, EVODs, Aeros the bottom leaks and it sometimes floods, they are runny as water.

Heavy VG juice are like treacle and from my experience less likey to leak and flood when in use but in bottom feed atttys can work itself out if left in the tank.
 
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