IS were born out of the power vacuum created in Iraq.
ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion
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IS were born out of the power vacuum created in Iraq.
There's one of three things happening here.
1. I haven't been clear in my point.
2. You're not understanding what I am saying.
3. Both of the above.
Not sure how me, a Muslim, saying Muslims should collectively stand against ISIS is bigoted nonsense.
Everyone should watch it, this is what Fundamentalist Islam is all about. There will be people in the UK right now cheering and laughing.
A pity we didn't know these people better twenty years ago, before the liberals told us everything was going to be rainbow sparkles and skipping.
The IRA weren't engaged in a religious war.
they were carrying out massacres for the regime - did you completely miss all the news coverage or something?
who encouraged them - well the guy paying their salary - Gaddafi
Did you miss the part we we helped the "rebels"?
nope, you seem to have short term memory loss, look up a few posts:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=27579845&postcount=3517
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What a convenient little technicality you have there. So as long as they are fighting for a religious ideal, it is the fault of the religion. Yet if someone fights for a political ideal, it's nothing to do with that ideal. Do you realise how ridiculous that differentiation is? Rhetorical, as you obviously wouldn't have said it otherwise.
They still fought "in the name" of some ideology.
Besides which the troubles around the Orange March is very much a protestant vs catholic conflict.
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I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
There's historical examples here. Fourth caliph fights against Khawarij extremists who were very much like the modern jihadi problem. Other Caliphs do the same. Islam as a religion dictates that rebels, extremist groups etc be brought under control.
You didn't say how I am a bigot.
Clearly the Irish should take no responsibility for addressing the IRA in your world.
There was sectarian violence but that was not the remit under what the PIRA and Sinn Fein operated.
Actually I did point out where you have a bigoted view... right in the same post where I call it your prejudiced agenda.
For every violent example, there are many, many more non-violent examples. Still the question stands though - what stance are you (and anyone else demanding Islam take a stance) expecting them to take?
You're drawing a false dichotomy, and claim I'm the one arguing for arguing's sake.
Other parties calling themselves "the IRA" did. Next.
IS are fighting a religious war, the PIRA were not.
not quite medieval cruelty yet the most wicked and cruel torture devices ever invented by man are far worse than ISIS has done so far.
Just travel in time a few hundred years witness the Judas Cradle
You sit on that thing...
, Pear of Anguish, brazen bull or many more inventive ways to kill someone
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not quite medieval cruelty yet the most wicked and cruel torture devices ever invented by man are far worse than ISIS has done so far.
Just travel in time a few hundred years witness the Judas Cradle
You sit on that thing...
, Pear of Anguish, brazen bull or many more inventive ways to kill someone
This is a key point.
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Jordan has executed two prisoners, including the woman previously the subject of a potential prisoner exchange deal for the murdered pilot.
pretty sure the prevailing opinion outside of immigrant Muslim communities in Britain is that he should be hung if we ever find him.
short of building a gallows not sure how much more of a stand the common man can make?
suppose they could beat the living **** out of the ISIS supporters when they come out in thier "protests" but not sure thats the best course of action.