News: Confusing Courts - Divorce

wesley · 11 Mar 2015 at 19:59

i'm confused. i thought divorce is divorce.

once divorce finalised. that it.

so what went wrong with their divorce? need to know so i dont want to make a same mistake as him

StriderX · 11 Mar 2015 at 19:59

Is this court saying as a unofficially that marriage is no more an agreement of love than two corporate entities sharing assets?

Suppose marriage is dead then, hilarious going's on at the moment.

OhEsEcks · 11 Mar 2015 at 20:00

wesley said:
need to know so i dont want to make a same mistake as him

Make sure all paperwork is properly finalised.

wesley · 11 Mar 2015 at 20:01

so they were still married?

OhEsEcks · 11 Mar 2015 at 20:05

wesley said:
so they were still married?

No. They were properly divorced. But according to the court, they should have done more paperwork to make sure no future financial claims could be made. Which is ridiculous. You think that should be covered by the fact you're getting a ****ing divorce in the first place.

From the article...

The judgment is also a timely reminder that divorcing couples who want protection from such claims, even if they have no money at all, should obtain an order from the court at the time of the divorce, in which they both agree that there will be no further financial claims.

CREATIVE!11 · 11 Mar 2015 at 20:10

scotty365 said:
I didn't get married but the she got pregnant and had a kid and got maintenance of me £268 /mo then she got married and is working and now she is still entitled to my wages - how can this be right - she married another man ffs.

TROLOLOL'D

Exactly.

Abraxaz1 said:
Basically if you make money don't marry a western women?

One of the boys I completed my apprenticeship, got married at 20 "had" a child, only to find out his misses had cheated on him, one quick dna test and a divorce later and he lost his house and the CSA wanted £1000 a month for the privilege of raising someone else's son.
He's now working in Saudi earning £130k a year non-taxed and pays the cow bugger all. She's fuming, tried to get his bank to issue her a card as his "wife".

moral of the story why pay for the cow, when you can get the milk for free

This is my point, it seems we've raised a generation of self entitled woman who think they deserve money from a man no matter what. It's a joke and you can bet I'm not going to gamble half of my net worth on someone's emotional state which can just change like the wind...

wesley · 11 Mar 2015 at 20:10

its very wrong

Drizmod · 11 Mar 2015 at 20:19

OhEsEcks said:
The judgment is also a timely reminder that divorcing couples who want protection from such claims, even if they have no money at all, should obtain an order from the court at the time of the divorce, in which they both agree that there will be no further financial claims.

I would have thought this would have been a given in any divorce settlement?

OhEsEcks · 11 Mar 2015 at 20:30

Drizmod said:
I would have thought this would have been a given in any divorce settlement?

My parents are divorced and according to my mum it was during their divorce (her words were 'I don't see men as a meal ticket, but many women do'). So who knows why this part of the settlement was never brought up with them (crap lawyers?).

So for anyone proceeding with a divorce you should probably make sure that the financial aspects of any settlement is tighter than a bluebottle's balloon knot.

Liefrich · 11 Mar 2015 at 20:35

I do love a bit of internet outrage! All solicitors need to do is add one line into the Consent Order debarring future claims for money (other than what is agreed). Not that difficult really.

platypus · 12 Mar 2015 at 07:07

manic_man said:
The basic premise of marriage as a way to show your devotion and love for another is alive and well, if anything I personally feel marriage for this reason has more meaning than those who do it simply because their life-doctrines require it...

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People who are anti-marriage will never understand this, and it's a pity.

Haggisman · 12 Mar 2015 at 08:20

amigafan2003 said:
Spot the bloke who can't keep hold of a woman

Keeping hold of them is easy. The hard part is getting rid of the body without the neighbours getting suspicious

scotty365 said:
I didn't get married but the she got pregnant and had a kid and got maintenance of me £268 /mo then she got married and is working and now she is still entitled to my wages - how can this be right - she married another man ffs.

That's fair enough to be honest - your child = you pay for it.

platypus said:
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People who are anti-marriage will never understand this, and it's a pity.

I wouldn't say I'm anti-marriage, it just holds no meaning to me whatsoever. I don't see how doing something which has no special significance shows love and devotion, just because everyone else is doing it?

It's perfectly possible to have a happy, stable, loving, devoted relationship without getting married, and plenty of people do.

It's also perfectly possible to have an unhappy marriage where both partners hate each other and are cheating on each other, and plenty of people do.

So what does marriage actually change?

It's curious that society places so much pressure on couples to marry... I wonder what the marriage industry (and divorce law) is worth to the economy...?

Edit: £10bn/year apparently.

wordy · 12 Mar 2015 at 08:28

Dj_Jestar said:
What is with this stupid trend of saying "a women" ?

Woman is the singular form, women the plural.

How many times a day do you hear "men are all....", "Why do men do ...." ?

PooKer · 12 Mar 2015 at 08:31

I'd love to know more details on the son. Divorced 20 years ago. "16 years of real hardship". where is he now? did you kick him out at 18? Has he already paid x amount to cover the upbringing of their son?

If the son wasn't involved I'd say shes just a money grabber who frankly cannot handle the fact he made something of himself after he ditched her.

Amp34 · 12 Mar 2015 at 08:31

platypus said:
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People who are anti-marriage will never understand this, and it's a pity.

That's a very quaint, old fashioned view isn't it?

Can you not proclaim your undying love another way? Marriage originated from controlling populations and women and deserves to be shoved into the history books IMO. Show your devotion in a more unique way.

alx · 12 Mar 2015 at 09:03

peige said:
If we're going to debate marriage then I think that all too often people get married too quickly and too young. How often do you look back on yourself 10 years ago and think "well i really knew what I was doing back then"
I believe you need to live with somebody a decent amount of years and you need to be in your late 20's at least before you can give it a go. Thats not to say its not going to work for you if you don't but it certainly makes the odds better.
Getting married is too easy.

Agreed.

The statistics prove that the later you get married, the less likely it will end in divorce.

alx · 12 Mar 2015 at 09:05

CREATIVE!11 said:
TROLOLOL'D

Exactly.

This is my point, it seems we've raised a generation of self entitled woman who think they deserve money from a man no matter what. It's a joke and you can bet I'm not going to gamble half of my net worth on someone's emotional state which can just change like the wind...

It's slowly starting to change. There was a case recently where the judge basically told the woman to "go and get a job" and to stop sponging of her ex husband.

Terminal_Boy · 12 Mar 2015 at 09:19

OhEsEcks said:
Make sure all paperwork is properly finalised.

This times a millionty as not doing this almost bit me right in the bum. Just because the settlement is amicable at the doesn't mean it'll stay that way.

mattyprice4004 · 12 Mar 2015 at 09:23

CREATIVE!11 said:
I always say,

Marriage is a bad deal and means nothing for men, I don't know why they do it. Well I know why.... society MASSIVELY pressures you and girls do too with retarded songs like "put a ring on it". Don't even get me started about the need to buy a ridiculously expensive diamond ring (Yes because that shows I love you...) that is basically worthless because diamonds are not actually that rare and the price is artificially inflated by the de beers diamond company...

Best part is you get shamed by people if you speak out against marriage. Love it. YOU BAD PERSON YOU! for not buying into the collective delusion that you should get married and allow a woman to bankrupt you! shame on you sir for looking out for your own interests you selfish individual!!!11

Yeah great put a ring on it because I need the government to ratify my relationship and afterwards it means you can take me to the cleaners and take 50% my net worth....

LOL... now i'm not saying there is anything wrong with for example supporting your wife if she stayed at home and raised the kids whilst you brought home the bacon. But there is a massive bias in divorces, I hear stories of woman cheating then still taking money off their husband... In fact I knew a guy who had this happen to him. She cheated, took the kids and then took his money.

Couldn't agree more. Can we get married?

Bald-Eagle22 · 12 Mar 2015 at 09:37

All fool the men ,

I could have come a cropper last year . Afterer 10 years of being divorced it came about when doing a will that my ex-wife and I had not submitted a financial remedy order during our divorce, she could have taken me to the cleaners AGAIN .

I had to take her back to court but luckily when she realised she had more to loose than I did this time she dropped her defence and signed the order.

I blame this all on the the scum I call divorce solicitors, there worse than estate agents and just try and extract every penny from you . Not once during my divorce that cost me £10500 in legal fees did my solicitor tell me about a financial remedy order with leads me to believe they don't to drum up repeat business. I place them firmly in the same bracket as used car sales men , estate agents and financial advisers.