Poll: General election voting intentions poll

[ethan]

Just watching Election 2015: Cameron and Miliband Live

Good god Cameron just give long drawn out rambling non-answers to all the questions, Miliband is probably going to be worse

Except he wasn't or at least as bad as expected, so that is a win for Labour on this count.

 

[No1newts]

Wasn't an impressive showing. Populist politics and pointless questions as ever with no straight answers. Cameron was the better of the two but that isn't saying much.

 

[robgmun]

Except he wasn't or at least as bad as expected, so that is a win for Labour on this count.

Only in your head, the polls all disagree with you

 

[phil675]

I thought Dave did badly but Ed was totally roasted, 'Ed are you ok?' Hahahahahah, I thought he was going to cry.

Ed really had a chance to come off as the better one of the two but couldnt keep his cool at all, and to think he was pushing for an actual debate. I doubt this will effect votes though as nobody watches this sort of thing.

 

[scorza]

Only in your head, the polls all disagree with you

The polls showed that Ed won more undecided voters after the event.

 

[platypus]

So do I, although I wish he'd keep better control at PMQs. His response today was gold .

Priceless .

 

[platypus]

The polls showed that Ed won more undecided voters after the event.

Except the news this morning says the opposite ?

 

[Danthus]

I thought Miliband would come out far worse than he did, there was actually a bit of fire in his belly when Paxman irked him.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Ed does not seem like a man who could lead a country. Sadly for Labour his brother always did come across as someone who could.

 

[scorza]

Except the news this morning says the opposite ?

Not according to BBC Breakfast this morning.

Edit - here we go: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-32055903

Good morning. Dominic Howell and Matthew West will be bringing you all the latest news and analysis from the main political stories of the day.

Here's a quick round up of the main points from the last night's television performance

- Cameron conceded he could not live on an exclusive zero-hours contract
- Cameron said he did not ask Lord Green about the HSBC allegations when he made him trade minister
- Ed Miliband described his relationship with David as "healing"
- Miliband insisted that "Hell, yes, I'm tough enough" to stand up to world leaders
- An instant poll from ICM/Guardian put Cameron as the winner 54% to 46% but of the 8% who said it had changed their view, more opted for Labour

My emphasis. Perhaps not exactly what I said though to be fair.

 

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Paxman was so busy being confrontational to Cameron & Miliband he forgot to ask any meaningful & intelligent questions.

Not good for politics, just dramatised nonsense.

Agree. I only saw him with Ed but just wondered why he was being a nob. Might as well have got someone from benefits street to do the interview

 

[Danthus]

Ed does not seem like a man who could lead a country. Sadly for Labour his brother always did come across as someone who could.

Do you mean in terms of his manner and how he carries himself or purely ability to do the job?

You are right about his brother, I think most people think he would have been the better choice, that is a lot of baggage to carry with you.

There have been plenty of reports that Labour MP's wanted Miliband out, they just never had the Balls to do it.

 

[platypus]

Not according to BBC Breakfast this morning.

Ah ok - have to bear in mind I'm usually a day behind on getting accurate (and fair) reporting on things like this.

 

[Danthus]

Paxman was so busy being confrontational to Cameron & Miliband he forgot to ask any meaningful & intelligent questions.

Not good for politics, just dramatised nonsense.

I disagree, he took Cameron apart when it came to the Conservative economic record.

 

[Freakbro]

There have been plenty of reports that Labour MP's wanted Miliband out, they just never had the Balls to do it.

Was that a pun?

 

[platypus]

I took it as such and thought it was great .

 

[scorza]

Do you mean in terms of his manner and how he carries himself or purely ability to do the job?

You are right about his brother, I think most people think he would have been the better choice, that is a lot of baggage to carry with you.

There have been plenty of reports that Labour MP's wanted Miliband out, they just never had the Balls to do it.

I don't know why people keep saying this (actually I do but won't go into that yet). Much of the criticism of Ed Milliband equally applies to his brother e.g. that he's a "North London geek", I don't know how good David is at eating bacon sandwiches though. David had his chance to challenge Gordon Brown for the Labour leadership and bottled it and then lost to Ed fair and square. People talk about "oh it was the unions that voted for Ed" - yes, that's how the Labour party is made up and you'd be a fool to ignore the unions if you wanted to win a leadership vote in the Labour party. By "stabbing his brother in the back" (what was he supposed to do - just defer to his brother because he's older?) at least Ed has shown a bit of ruthlessness.

 

[atpbx]

Ed does not seem like a man who could lead a country. Sadly for Labour his brother always did come across as someone who could.

His brother was the only choice, most labour MPs and activists thought the same thing.

You know, much as I hate him and his party, you have to give him credit for being some piece of work.

It's not everyone who could live with themselves after flying in the face of what's best for his party, ignoring the will of most MPs and members of his party, stabbing his brother in the back and then going on to destroy almost all of the (very small amount of good) that happened during labours time in power by climbing back in bed with the unions and selling himself and labour out entirely to their whims.

 

[atpbx]

I don't know why people keep saying this (actually I do but won't go into that yet). Much of the criticism of Ed Milliband equally applies to his brother e.g. that he's a "North London geek", I don't know how good David is at eating bacon sandwiches though. David had his chance to challenge Gordon Brown for the Labour leadership and bottled it and then lost to Ed fair and square. People talk about "oh it was the unions that voted for Ed" - yes, that's how the Labour party is made up and you'd be a fool to ignore the unions if you wanted to win a leadership vote in the Labour party. By "stabbing his brother in the back" (what was he supposed to do - just defer to his brother because he's older?) at least Ed has shown a bit of ruthlessness.

He should have deferred to his brother because his brother was a better candidate.

What Ed did was act entirely in his own self interest.

 

[Mr Jack]

He should have deferred to his brother because his brother was a better candidate.

No, he wasn't. David was likely to be a more electable leader than Ed, and I think that were he at the helm Labour might well be doing better in the polls but he offered absolutely nothing to either Labour or the Country that was new. David Miliband was solidly New Labour; he would have been little more than a less charasmatic Tony Blair carrying on with the same approach and policies.

Ed was the best of the candidates in the Labour leadership election; although sadly not the most PR-friendly.