FIFA 15

Andybtsn said:
Surely that's just the nature of a game in general though, I don't think there's momentum/handicapping, i just think think there's a lot of luck at times for players.

If there was momentum you wouldn't get the 3/4.1 ratio's you get most FIFA's. Or maybe you're just getting it every game hence why you win so many....
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I don't think it necessarily decides the outcome of the game on it's own, but you can definitely feel whether you have 'it' or your opponent does, your players are quicker, they trap the ball perfectly, they make ridiculous passes, they walk through tackles and keep the ball often 3-4 times in the same attack.

I understand that it would be luck if it happened an equal number of times per team in the same game but it's very obvious in certain games where one team has 'it' and you just endlessly wander through tackles, cannot give the ball away even when you pass it directly to your opponent etc.
 
C64 said:
Yea lets all pretend goals don't happen 45th 90th minute and lets pretend that the players don't feel 1 fitness the entire game standing around like statues compared to your opponents players running around like usain bolt.
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Seriously, what are you on about? I've only had a PS4 for a week so it's a genuine question.

Sounds like you're just blaming your losses on an imaginary thing though?
 
Momentum exists, sometimes players feel like they are running through mud, cant pass right and yes the I tackle the player 3-4 times and yet he has the ball still, other games you cant put a foot or pass wrong.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Some kids beat him on FUT so instead of rage selling just his team, he rage sold the game as well.
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nope just the game itself
Ewaf said:
Seriously, what are you on about? I've only had a PS4 for a week so it's a genuine question.

Sounds like you're just blaming your losses on an imaginary thing though?
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come back when you have 500 games under your belt
 
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I'm still loving FIFA and really enjoy it, but there is something at play. It's not even subtle. Happened loads recently, and exactly as other people say - bad touches, slow at shooting, dropping off defenders, not tracking runs, etc, whilst the other team's players are like magnets.

You can tell the difference when you play in friendly tournaments vs friends too, never have issues in those games.

I've saved a couple of videos, one I posted recently but will again:

1. Sturridge horribly slow, should have kept the first pass let alone be too slow to get the loose ball.
2. Cahill dropping off a million miles away when the ball comes in to Costa
3. Costa scores from a ridiculous angle despite blocking with Cahill and both Baines and Hart being in the way


As you can see from the score that was just happening constantly.
 
C64 said:
come back when you have 500 games under your belt
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I don't this tone really helps :p

I agree with what you're saying but being dismissive of people because they don't have your 1300 games played is a little silly. I have 500 (I think?) on UT so hope I can judge?

I don't think that the momentum / a team being 'in-form', if you like, decides the outcome of the match; poor players will still generally lose to better players, it is just an unnecessary thing in the game for me. I've beaten players that are as good as me 5/6/7-0 so comfortably because my players were demigods whereas he had Titus Bramble in every position on the pitch. On the other hand, I've lost 3/4/5-0 to players I would consider worse than me (poor decisions on the ball, poor defensively etc.) purely because of them having 'it'.

It's very frustrating to play when you're up against it because you are being unnecessarily punished and given an irritating game of Fifa by things completely out of your control.
 
Finally got my front lines sorted. As sweaty as they come.

IF Elia - TOTY Di Maria - Walcott is first team

Gervinho - Doumbia - Cuadrado is fitness
 
I must admit i absolutely believe that in UT there is a kind of "balancing" mechanic that is used by EA, probably to keep poorer teams/players interested and hopefully buying packs . If i use my muck about silver team against any team they play their hearts out and do everything to the best you can expect, i have lashed many legend teams with them.

My main team on the other hand has 95(record breaker messi) , ronaldo , bale , modric , toty ramos , SIF de gea , toty kroos etc etc and there is games where i can get the ball to ronaldo and knock it past per mertesacker , i will get a yard in front of him and try to sprint through on goal , ronnie will only jog no matter what and mertesacker can catch then overtake him , getting to the ball first. Things like that and it will happen all match , sometimes for a whole night. Kroos is a great passer , last night he couldn't make a backwards or sideways pass no matter what distance.

That squad is 88 rated , i dropped some of the big names and put in a host of non rare players , enough to drop my squad to 82 even with ronaldo in it . Next match i won 6-0 with ronnie getting all 6 and destroying the other guy. It is certainly not just me "playing poor" etc , don't get me wrong i have games where i know i played poor and there is games where my team is clearly being held back and not playing or running as they should.

p.s i have played over 700 games and Yoda answers to me ;)
 
I have to agree to an extent. Certain elements of the game do appear to be scripted. It's annoying when you have been comfortable all game then all of a sudden come the 85th minute onwards players can't pass let alone defend and the relief when you have just held on even though you dominated. Your backbone is suddenly a mess as players move up, players no longer make runs. I think it's implemented to create more of a tense anything can happen in football feel. Be interesting to see the amount of goals scored in injury time on this.

Ahh I lost interest in FIFA 15 a while back, such a one dimensional game with little room for a variety of different styles. Bring back 13 or 14, maybe even 12 :)

I'll still get 16 on release though :p
 
If I ever thought I was not only trying to beat another a human but also the game itself I would just give up and sell it. There is no clear evidence of anything mentioned, if I play against the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Gullit, or any other legends then surely I should get this 'momentum', however these players still play like Gods and I have to work my arse off to beat a good player controlling them.

I believe the element of luck is a massive difference in a game and balls rebounding off this and that and players doing silly things occurs for either player.

The whole scripting thing in a human controlled game is laughable, especially the 45th/90th min thing :D

I have no reason to defend EA, they are a horrible company but having played 800 odd FUT games and probably about 5k since FUT started I would have seen something regularly occurring to put me off ever playing again.
 
RedStarRiot said:
I have to agree to an extent. Certain elements of the game do appear to be scripted. It's annoying when you have been comfortable all game then all of a sudden come the 85th minute onwards players can't pass let alone defend and the relief when you have just held on even though you dominated.
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TBH this happens all the time in real football when a team is holding onto a narrow lead and the oppo throws bodies forwards, I don't see the issue?

EA admit there is momentum in FIFA 15, they just call it "emotional intelligence" but it's not nearly dramatic enough to cause the swings that some people are describing.

You also can't discount the fact that when you are on a bad run it's unlikely you are playing exactly the same as you were when you were doing well, you get anxious, try stuff that's not on etc.
 
If you're good at the game then you can easily beat people when it's against you but it's not fun. The problem comes when you're against somebody half decent and you're fighting him and the game.

It's not entirely luck, everything happens for a reason in the game but you can obviously make it worse by playing badly.
 
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