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I keep an eye on it, but mainly use a Performance Management Chart (PMC) I have in Excel or on Trainining Peaks.

The reason your fatigue increases and your fitness doesn't too much is the following

Fitness = Chronic Tranining Load (CTL)
Fatigue = Acute Training Load (ATL)
Form = Training Stress Balance (TSB)

These measures were all created by Coggan and the Training Peaks lot, Strava has just mirrored it and changed the names and numbers slightly, which is confusing!

Essentially the above measure what happens as you train. Every ride is assigned a TSS score (=Training Stress Score, how hard did you work basically), or in Strava's case its a called training load. This increases your CTL and ATL. CTL is a long term measure which takes into account a longer period. ATL is the last few days I think?

TSB is the differential between CTL and ATL. So if you have a high CTL and a low ATL you would be in form, as you've trained loads in the long term, but are fresh in the short term.

The reason your CTL doesn't increase too much, is that you are likely at the point at which it becomes too much to increase. An example. My CTL is now around 80, that means just to keep it there I need to average 80TSS per day. Which is quite hard. To increase it I need to do more. Which is even harder without becoming fatigued.

Its all about balance, but learning to read it will help you plan to come into form at the right time for big rides and races.

That said, its not gospel, and sometimes your legs will not agree with the chart. For me its one of the things that helps to keep me really motivate though. My CTL has risen from around 35 at the beginning of the year all the way to 80 at present. I'll hope to get up to 90-100 before the end of the year.

As a comparison though, mine is:
Fitness - 62
Fatigue - 62
Form - 0

<pretty graph>

Fantastic information and really one side of it I'd like to get into, but to be honest that's something for next year as I'm still 'new' to riding enough that every time I get out I'm progressing. I just have concerns currently about my recoveries and if I'm 'doing them right'.

More riding is my solution, I know when I'm tired/fatigued but I'm still at the stage I need to push myself through it to continue fitness gains - I have quite a way to go before I'm anywhere near the classic 'cyclist' shape! ;)

My aim for this year is to comfortably do 100+ miles per week (aiming at 2 rides and my commuting) :)

Two years for full ratification, three-four years for them to be mainstream = new bike shopping time :D.

About long enough to persuade her indoors about a new bike then? :D ;)

Yeah, I love it. I'm essentially a data analyst for work, so love looking into all of the data, and watching the trends. Mostly because I despise the idea that I might be standing still. I love riding, but I don't ride 10+ hours a week to be the same standard as I was last year. May as well use everything in my power in order try and further myself!

I think that's one thing I notice 'different' about us on here... We love the data, we love to see progress but we also like to see it quantified with numbers. I've ridden with guys who just don't care about the speed, the numbers or analysing things that much. I can understand why, but for me that's a big part of the whole cycling experience! :cool:

I know that :p, but the original plan was to have another 6 months saving before I bought a new bike. Don't think her indoors will go for that, might have to look at trying to guilt her into a birthday/christmas present.

Give her an option, buy you a power meter, Di2 'upgrade' when you get the new bike... Or the new bike! ;)
 
Fair weather commuters get right on my ****, and I feel much better for saying it.
Yep, plenty of them out over this way. It's either getting overtaking challenges from keen male riders or stuck behind slowcoaches. Don't mind the slowcoaches, it's the constant challenges from riders who can't hold the pace they've just challenged you with and you end up going back past them and... rinse and repeat at every set of lights. Yesterday I had an old dear dithering in her car and basically endangering all of us because she was driving super slow and unpredictably right next to all of us; I dropped back to keep clear but the car behind was then a massive risk because he was being aggressively impatient. Then one cyclist had obviously had enough and pulled into a parking space to force the old dear to overtake, except instead of overtaking she decided to just stop dead in the middle of the road... I then did something stupid which was to see the opportunity and sprint through the gap and get myself way clear... which was the 'wrong' thing to do but it worked for me...
 
Im thinking about getting a 12-30 ratio rear cassette, has anyone used on of these before? im looking for something to help on the 8+% hills and the 30 might be worth a look.

Currently running a 11-28 and the jump from a 12-25 was awesome. If i did go up to a 30 tooth sprocket, would i need to change the length of mech arm? and chain?
 
I have a 13-29 on one bike, but I have a 39 at the front so probably not that relevant

you'd probably need a medium rear mech rather than a short for a 30t
 
Im thinking about getting a 12-30 ratio rear cassette, has anyone used on of these before? im looking for something to help on the 8+% hills and the 30 might be worth a look.

Currently running a 11-28 and the jump from a 12-25 was awesome. If i did go up to a 30 tooth sprocket, would i need to change the length of mech arm? and chain?

my bike came with 32/11 - 50/39 front.

got used to it so I replaced my new cassette with the same gearing! if you want to do some proper climbing then you can go crazy with the above gearing.
 
Ive currently got 50/39 front. I can get up the hills with the 28 on the back but was thinking if i could get a jump like i did moving from the 25 to the 28 then it might be worth it
 
Daveski (or any other Nottinghamshire'ers), do you have any routes you could link to on mapmyride/google maps/etc that are local? Not fussed about length.

Looking at getting out a few times in the evening through the week, but short of ideas where to go!
 
New SRAM 1x road groupset - want

Middle Ring : 38-54 options
Rear Cassette : 10-42 11 speed

I'm not convinced about a single chainring on a road bike.

I love it on my MTBs. Speed tends to vary much more and the bigger jumps in gears isnt so much of a problem because i'm constantly moving up and down the cassette.

On my road bike I tend to stay at the same speed for long periods of time and I like to have the perfect gear for doing that. The added weight and complexity of a front derailleur is worth it for more gear choice on a road bike IMO.
 
Daveski (or any other Nottinghamshire'ers), do you have any routes you could link to on mapmyride/google maps/etc that are local? Not fussed about length.

Looking at getting out a few times in the evening through the week, but short of ideas where to go!

https://www.strava.com/activities/285809910
https://www.strava.com/activities/285777935
https://www.strava.com/activities/141704449
https://www.strava.com/activities/173174978
https://www.strava.com/activities/10529021
https://www.strava.com/activities/8315301

There's loads of potential routes near us Dunks.

BCC Chaingang tonight if you fancy it? - http://www.beeston.cc/events/event/?id=2092
 
I got out and did 30 miles with Damien this evening. First time I've ever been able to outpace him! I'm sure he won't let it happen again ;)

We'll see :p

I was rough as hell last night. Still don't feel so clever today. I think pushing it while still getting into my low-carbiness isn't the best idea. I reckon allowing the odd gel purely on rides is the safer option than going full cold turkey and trying to push through the bonk.
 

Yeah, not sure why I didn't just think about stalking your Strava!

Can't do tonight! I do want to come to some BCC rides though with a look at joining, but I want to do a couple of longer rides similar or a dummy run of the chain gang one for example just to see how my pacing is! Don't want to turn up and get dropped instantly!
 
You shouldn't on the chaingang and if it does happen someone will drop off and ride the rest with you.

Always welcome at Costa on a Friday if you want to meet some of the club. Or it's the social night tomorrow at a pub in Beeston called the Hop Pole.

And if you want to go for a ride give me a shout :)
 
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Seem a bit silly going for Ultegra, and then replacing the majority of it at a later date with Ultegra Di2.

I think I'm with you there,

People say its not much changing to Di2 but all that actually means is you are not changing the crank or brakes.

Which you might need to for a powermeter anyway......

Although I suppose if your not adverse to work you could
buy ultegra
Then get the powermeter crank of some description.
Buy the Di2 shifters and derailleurs treat yourself to dura ace brakes and then sell the old groups
 
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Im thinking about getting a 12-30 ratio rear cassette, has anyone used on of these before? im looking for something to help on the 8+% hills and the 30 might be worth a look.

Currently running a 11-28 and the jump from a 12-25 was awesome. If i did go up to a 30 tooth sprocket, would i need to change the length of mech arm? and chain?

50/39 Front is a bit weird. I thought 50/34 was standard on a compact. I run 52/36 now with a 11-25 or 11-28 depending. Way prefer the 11-25 though, as the shifts are so much more incremental.

My Giant Defy 1 2015 has 34/50 and then a 12-30 Cassette and I love it, I have no huge comparison though. Even with my feeble hill climbing ability I don't use 34-30 often, but it's there for utter-bail-out-after-bonk/recovery spin-up-the-last-bit-after-big-effort-and-not-quite-make-it! ;)
 
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