body shaming gone too far? (***warning*** Daily Fail Story ***warning***)

It's catering to people who want that body, and it's a good advert, because it's now everywhere. Money well spent.


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Beef goblin.

Lol.
 
To be fair, your schedule is not exactly a difficult one to fit in exercise, is it.

I eat reasonably well so I'm no bloater, as it happens, but I certainly don't do as much exercise as I would like or as I used to before parenthood. But I'm up at 6am, dealing with the kids until I leave for work at 8, home at 6.30, dealing with the kids until 8pm, then I eat, tidy up and it's 9pm. On about 3 days a week, I don't have further jobs to do, so I have up to 2 free hours before I go to bed by 11 to get my not-quite-7-hours sleep.

Perhaps I could go to the gym 3 days a week, but it's a tough sacrifice when those 6 hours are the only free time you have all week. And I'm a 15+ minute drive from the nearest gym.

I can easily see why those with less food awareness than I could pile on the pounds.


Why does exercise have to involve going to the gym on your own? You've got kids, go and play an hour of sport with them mid week and maybe longer on the weekend. Kids are the perfect excuse to have a healthy lifestyle. They have bundles of energy and love running about. Go to the park and kick a ball about. Even when you have a very young baby, put them in the pram and go for a walk. They will go straight to sleep and you get some exercise. And when you are cooking food you are not cooking for one any more so making a freshly cooked healthy meal should be non-optional in the evenings.
 
Why does exercise have to involve going to the gym on your own? You've got kids, go and play an hour of sport with them mid week and maybe longer on the weekend. Kids are the perfect excuse to have a healthy lifestyle. They have bundles of energy and love running about. Go to the park and kick a ball about. Even when you have a very young baby, put them in the pram and go for a walk. They will go straight to sleep and you get some exercise. And when you are cooking food you are not cooking for one any more so making a freshly cooked healthy meal should be non-optional in the evenings.

Don't get me wrong, I don't do as much exercise as I would like, but I'm fairly active, given my timetable. And we eat proper food (no weight issues in the household)

I was simply using my situation to illustrate the sort of time constraints many people face, in response to a post suggesting making time for going to the gym was easy and excuses about time were garbage.
 
I had to facepalm a little last night. Chatting to my friends wife and she was complaining about her weight, as she was just under 14 st....and she's only about 5'4"

Well, part of the issue she said was working in an office, just all those cups of tea/coffe with biscuits, cakes and muffins always around.... :rolleyes:

I just said here's a radical concept....just don't eat them?

Then she went on about how when they go to Neros now she only has a Jacket potato with cottage cheese now, because that's healthy yes?, not the lovely <insert whatever cheese laden snack she was on about>

Then proceeded to tell me how they ordered Dominoes the other night, had to have the 2 for 1 deal since it was only a few pounds more, and then she had 8 slices :eek: When I asked she said they are about 700 calories each? :eek::eek:

She didn't look that impressed when I pointed out that was currently about 4 days worth of calories for me, being a 6'1" bloke, since I am on the mission to shift a stone or two myself (only half a st to go :cool: )

Fine, eat what you like, but just don't ****** moan about it when your fat afterwards!

People don't realise what they are putting into their mouths. "Oh its only a snack", or "An extra slice won't hurt" adds the pounds on more than big dinners.
 
I was simply using my situation to illustrate the sort of time constraints many people face, in response to a post suggesting making time for going to the gym was easy and excuses about time were garbage.

excuses about time generally are garbage, plenty of people with long hours, busy lives & kids find time

the various gyms in Canary Wharf and the City would go out of business otherwise
 
excuses about time generally are garbage, plenty of people with long hours, busy lives & kids find time

the various gyms in Canary Wharf and the City would go out of business otherwise

If you are able to work long hours and also fit in a trip to the gym, as I'm sure is the case with the workers you cite, then you either don't have a family to care for, or you are happy not to see them during the working week.

Work/life balance is something for each individual to prioritise, but to say decisions over such compromise is easy (or a garbage excuse if they opt for family time) is a little disingenuous.

Besides, many people don't get the sort of compensation those in the city do for sacrificing family life. It's hardly a typical cross section.
 
excuses about time generally are garbage, plenty of people with long hours, busy lives & kids find time

the various gyms in Canary Wharf and the City would go out of business otherwise

Again. Why the gym? A healthy lifestyle which includes exercise does not need to revolve around finding time to go to a gym. It reminds me of this picture "I will not do any exercise unless I'm surrounded by sweaty men."

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Go for a jog outside, ride your bike, play football with your kids. Lift some weights at home if you want to gain some muscle. Don't waste your time driving to the gym.
 
The point here is that there is a huge difference between someone who is "normal" (i.e. look back not that far to what women and men looked like in the 50s, take Marilyn Monroe as a good example) and someone who works out at the gym multiple times in a week and eats less than the recommended amount of calories daily for their gender and also supplements that with processed protein powder.

The adverts promote the latter as the norm because that company is trying to make money from said processed protein powder.

I don't think anyone has a problem with people being a healthy weight for their height, what people have a problem with is adverts like these that promote an exaggerated version of the human body as the norm and make (especially young) women (and it should be said too, men) feel inadequate about themselves at an almost subconscious level.

And as for Hopkins... she's a self obsessed product of today's over-dramatised sense of reality society seems to have. She found a way to stay in the spotlight by vomiting vitriolic statements tempered just enough with undeniable fact that some will always take her side and those that give her a platform (as she makes them money...) are able to justify her. Oddly enough it's exactly the same tactic the extreme right and left of politics tend to use.

Whether she's "really like that" or not is irrelevant, she's got a public persona and it's all I can judge her on and I judge her as an intolerant bigot with blinkered views and some clear body issues of her own that she covers up by shouting at everybody else around her, very much like every school bully ever.
 
Most people who are overweight have an excuse as to why they are fat. My missus is a little overweight and is trying to lose some at the moment but like all people she makes those little excuses that undo any good work she does.

She works for the NHS and there are usually biscuits about. We will have dinner and then she wants something nice for dessert or for a tasty snack. Suddenly instead of being in a 300 calorie deficit you are a few calories in the red and its really easy to do.

I climb a lot and extra weight is no use so I am pretty strict about what I eat but it is hard to maintain a strict diet. I am fine because my metabolism is quite high and I exercise regularly as well as doing a fair bit of complementary stuff at home but at the end of the day you control your weight and if its not where you want it to be, its your own fault.
 
As a gym goer, and holding above average nutritional knowledge, taking supplements as part of a decent diet is not detrimental and in some cases can be beneficial. The store is just a typical supplements store, they want you to buy their products. No product should be taken alone without looking at your entire nutritional intake (i.e. whole foods). However, shakes, and meal replacement can give you nutrients without bulking yourself out with excessive calories.

The fitness model will have a knowledge of diets/nutrition and will be working along side nutritional experts and professional trainers etc. so I doubt that her nutritional intake is below recommended amounts - her blogs suggest a pretty good diet actually despite being vegan.

The body in the advert is not exaggerated at all - my gym has many women and men that could appear on the cover of magazines - if I weren't so hairy I may even be in with a shot! :eek:

It is all perfectly achievable and realistic - that's what people don't understand, but also are not willing to sacrifice to put the effort in to actually achieve their goals.
 
The problem being, people overestimate how many calories you burn and underestimate how many calories you consume.

Shame really, no will power + the above = porkies :)
Cue the excuses.
 
Again. Why the gym? A healthy lifestyle which includes exercise does not need to revolve around finding time to go to a gym.

I think you've completely missed the point, I was highlighting that if people with some of the longest hours in the country have time to go to the gym then there generally isn't a lack of time excuse when it comes to exercise. I've not said anything about the merits if using a gym vs other forms if exercise, that is completely irrelevant to the point.
 
If women were truly comfortable with how they look they wouldn't be bothered by that ad?

BB x

It's important to be present yourself as offended and/or oppressed these days, particularly if you enjoy a thick slice of pie to go along with your unsubstantiated rant about why normal, healthy people are projecting "unobtainable body types".
 
The body in the advert is not exaggerated at all - my gym has many women and men that could appear on the cover of magazines - if I weren't so hairy I may even be in with a shot! :eek:

It is all perfectly achievable and realistic - that's what people don't understand, but also are not willing to sacrifice to put the effort in to actually achieve their goals.

That is the part plenty of people just don't realise. In fact some females who are hardcore gym goers tend to be more muscular/ripped than her(such as the picture another poster posted of his gf), the figure she has in the advert doesn't require much to maintain with a good diet. Frankly I know some girls with figures like that from a bit of cardio, dance class and yoga...
 
If women were truly comfortable with how they look they wouldn't be bothered by that ad?

BB x

You sure?

I see lots of people getting quite heated defending things they're very happy with, when it's under some form of criticism. Cars, towns, graphics cards....

Similarly, people get very heated defending principles with which they are very comfortable

I think objections to the advert straddle both of the above.

The implication of the advert is that a body failing to match up to the woman in the pic is inferior. There are people who will be personally offended by that implication, and people whose principles are offended by it.
 
[FnG]magnolia;27974363 said:
It's important to be present yourself as offended and/or oppressed these days, particularly if you enjoy a thick slice of pie to go along with your unsubstantiated rant about why normal, healthy people are projecting "unobtainable body types".

Playing the victim pays, currently...
Please, I hope it's just a faze and dies a horrible death :(
 
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