The labour Leader thread...

Metallifux · 15 May 2015 at 08:29

After watching question time last night I thought Tristram Hunt came over quite well. Admitted Labour had made mistakes but also backed up the financial issues they had with the banking crash. With a name like Tristram though not sure he'll appeal to the left.

Amp34 · 15 May 2015 at 08:39

Thompson_NCL said:
I agree. Chuka is barely even British, given his father was a Nigerian. Which incidentally is much the same as Barack Obama.

I find the latter especially bizarre. Its almost like America said 'we can't find a legitimate Afro-American to be president, so we'll import one'.

Or you know, the Americans voted in the person they thought would be best at the job.

StriderX · 15 May 2015 at 08:40

Amp34 said:
Or you know, the Americans voted in the person they thought would be best at the job.

Pfft, come on don't make that joke.

ubersonic · 15 May 2015 at 09:16

Evangelion said:
I don't have a preference, but I reckon Chukka Umuna is most likely to win it.

Sadly if he does that's more likely to benefit the Tories than Labour.

The are, regrettably, a lot of racists in the UK, and if he becomes leader you can bet that most of the racists that voted Labour in 2015 will not do so in 2020, also most of the former Labour voting racists that defected to UKIP in 2015 will not swing back.

To add insult to injury it is impossible for Farage (or whoever leads UKIP in 2020) to stand in a leaders debate with Chukka and go on an anti immigration rant without looking like a total fool or a racist, which means a lot of the former Tory voting non-racists that defected to UKIP in 2015 will swing back.

Metallifux · 15 May 2015 at 10:17

ubersonic said:
Sadly if he does that's more likely to benefit the Tories than Labour.

The are, regrettably, a lot of racists in the UK, and if he becomes leader you can bet that most of the racists that voted Labour in 2015 will not do so in 2020, also most of the former Labour voting racists that defected to UKIP in 2015 will not swing back.

To add insult to injury it is impossible for Farage (or whoever leads UKIP in 2020) to stand in a leaders debate with Chukka and go on an anti immigration rant without looking like a total fool or a racist, which means a lot of the former Tory voting non-racists that defected to UKIP in 2015 will swing back.

Whilst I agree with you that I don't believe that if elected leader most of middle England (whether they believe themselves to be non-racist or not) will vote Labour if Chuka is the leader, I disagree with your point about being able to debate immigration. Particularly with UKIP who are totally against free movement from the EU but pro controlled immigration from all parts of the world including Nigeria where Chuka's father is from.

Uther · 15 May 2015 at 10:45

Chukka has just withdrawn his leadership bid. He must have been reading this thread.

StriderX · 15 May 2015 at 10:46

Uther said:
Chukka has just withdrawn his leadership bid. He must have been reading this thread.

Damn champagne marxist pigs

Cosimo · 15 May 2015 at 10:50

Uther said:
Chukka has just withdrawn his leadership bid. He must have been reading this thread.

He said that it was just too my pressure for him to take. GD should be part of any leadership test.

scorza · 15 May 2015 at 11:07

I bet Chuka has experienced only a fraction of the pressure and press hassle that Nigel Farage has received as leader of UKIP. Sounds pretty weaksauce from Umunna, I wonder if he's really cut out for a career in politics...

easyrider · 15 May 2015 at 11:11

Can a mod change the title of this thread please and Change the Labour with a capital...Its annoying the hell out of me.

leaskovski · 15 May 2015 at 11:15

Uther said:
Chukka has just withdrawn his leadership bid. He must have been reading this thread.

Labour party is racist.

Schlong&Stable · 15 May 2015 at 11:27

Amp34 said:
Or you know, the Americans voted in the person they thought would be best at the job.

What has that got to do with what I said? My point was not whether he is the best person for the job, but whether he is an authentic American. I also pointed out the irony of people holding him up as an Afro-American president, when he is nothing of the sort.

robgmun · 15 May 2015 at 11:45

ubersonic said:
Sadly if he does that's more likely to benefit the Tories than Labour.

The are, regrettably, a lot of racists in the UK, and if he becomes leader you can bet that most of the racists that voted Labour in 2015 will not do so in 2020, also most of the former Labour voting racists that defected to UKIP in 2015 will not swing back.

To add insult to injury it is impossible for Farage (or whoever leads UKIP in 2020) to stand in a leaders debate with Chukka and go on an anti immigration rant without looking like a total fool or a racist, which means a lot of the former Tory voting non-racists that defected to UKIP in 2015 will swing back.

Sorry sir, your race card had been declined, seems like it's been maxed out, do you have another you can use?

eldergeek · 15 May 2015 at 11:46

SPG said:
Chuka Uma is a just another long line of career politicians. Labour cant even grasp why they lost.

I would sooner vote for my cat.

And this is precisely why I wouldn't vote for any of them in a general election - the problem with politics in this country, is that the people intent on "serving the people" seek to do so because of the power and privelege that comes with doing so.

Britain needs to become a republic. It's that simple.

McGray · 15 May 2015 at 11:54

Apparently big expose in one of the Sundays....

phil675 · 15 May 2015 at 12:02

Tristram Hunt made his own party look like incompetent twits on QT last night so that's him out.

robgmun · 15 May 2015 at 12:14

LOL at Ed Balls can't even be better than milliband!!

Cosimo · 15 May 2015 at 12:19

robgmun said:
LOL at Ed Balls can't even be better than milliband!!

That poll was from a year ago. I can just imagine what it would say now.

Metallifux · 15 May 2015 at 12:37

McGray said:
Apparently big expose in one of the Sundays....

My money is on gay.

ubersonic · 15 May 2015 at 12:39

robgmun said:
Sorry sir, your race card had been declined, seems like it's been maxed out, do you have another you can use?

Ahh, attempting to mock because you can't think of a logical counter argument to the points, I thought more of you than that Rob

Moses said:
he'll come out

Metallifux said:
My money is on gay.