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Short sighted in a thread about a premium top of the line video card? Absolutely... Every year I buy hundreds of desktops with IGP's in them and when the time comes I generally have a quick google and see how they have come along. But in this thread it's irreverent.

But you're the one who said they're crap, and they're evidently not when they've replaced entry tier discrete GPU's.

I can feel myself getting dumber.
 
Agreed, I mean an E3 launch would have been great but due to the 980 Ti launch, I think a paper launch at Computex with a fixed launch date for a few weeks would be better now.

The 980 Ti is flying off the shelves, be good if AMD could show something.
I agree, they should say something now even if cards won't be on shelves and benchmarks uploaded till E3.
 
Please go back and read... At no point until you started waffling on about IGP's did I mention anything about IGP's apart from to say that IGP's are generally rubbish across the board and that nobody was really interested. Either way I am done here so I shall keep out of something that to be fair I don't really have a massive interest in anymore.

I didn't waffle on about IGP's, I simply stated that's what Intel turned it's focus to when replying to the guy who said he wished Intel would enter the discrete GPU market. You were the one who brought up an IGP that wasn't even the one mentioned and then started waffling about how it doesn't compare to your nVidia card (Captain Obvious).
 
AMD's main market throughout their history has typically been cheapskates, about the only successful premium product I can recall them selling is the Athlon FX line and that was when Intel were floundering around with the P4.

AMD don't have the developer relations programme in place to command such a premium imo, imagine paying £700+ for a Fury and all you get from AMD is whining towards NVidia and re-runs of the recent Project Cars/Witcher 3 fiascos, waiting until after release to work with the developer is not going to be good enough. It's a lot more excusable for a value brand.

I have to agree with this. I wouldn't be so forward in calling people cheapskates mind but time and again, I have read that all that matters is price, NVidia are ripping people off, AMD are price to performance king etc but being someone who uses both AMD and NVidia, I feel AMD are generally aimed at the Lidl shoppers and while the cards are good, the overall package does leave question marks on AMDs commitment to its users.
 
I have to agree with this. I wouldn't be so forward in calling people cheapskates mind but time and again, I have read that all that matters is price, NVidia are ripping people off, AMD are price to performance king etc but being someone who uses both AMD and NVidia, I feel AMD are generally aimed at the Lidl shoppers and while the cards are good, the overall package does leave question marks on AMDs commitment to its users.

I feel AMD are generally aimed at the Lidl shoppers

And you wonder why people think you are the biggest troll around here?
 
I have to agree with this. I wouldn't be so forward in calling people cheapskates mind but time and again, I have read that all that matters is price, NVidia are ripping people off, AMD are price to performance king etc but being someone who uses both AMD and NVidia, I feel AMD are generally aimed at the Lidl shoppers and while the cards are good, the overall package does leave question marks on AMDs commitment to its users.

I doubt many high end PC gamers are Lidl's shoppers Gregster. The two things don't go hand in hand tbh.

The 7970 was £420+ at launch, and the 290X. That's hardly a cheapskate product.

Think more Xbox 360 / PS3 in 2015 for the conscientious Lidl shopper. Again nothing wrong with that, some people have less money and it's not something that should be joked about / used as a derogatory term imho.
 
I doubt many high end PC gamers are Lidl's shoppers Gregster. The two thing don't go hand in hand tbh.

The 7970 was £420+ at launch, and the 290X. That's hardly a cheapskate product.

Think more Xbox 360 / PS3 in 2015 for the conscientious Lidl shopper.

He thinks Having a Titan-X makes him a Waitrose / Marks and Spencer shopper looking down at the common people.

Like one of those guys who thinks he's cool awkwardly crawling out of his Gull Wing Door Sports Car, there is a word for those folk...
 
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AMD are generally aimed at the Lidl shoppers

This is quite true, I admit I have shopped at Lidl/Aldi a few times because their digestives are just as nice as McVities and their custard creams are even nicer.

This is directly comparable to AMD/Nvidia, AMD charge less but you still get something just as good if not better than a more expensive Nvidia product. The only thing lacking is the manufacturers after sales support.

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Imagine if Costco made GPUs! they would be great, cheap and come with a lifetime new for old warranty lol.
 
AMD are certainly seen as the "value brand" though.

Only in regards to high priced Nvidia / Intel products. All high end PC parts aren't something that is considered 'value' by most people. It's a luxury to be able to afford high end PC gaming whichever brand you choose.

Not comfortable with this topic at all lol. I don't think income / status is something to be joked about.
 
Only in regards to high priced Nvidia / Intel products. All high end CPU parts aren't something that is considered 'value' by most people. It's a luxury to be able to afford high end PC gaming whichever brand you choose.

Not comfortable with this topic at all lol. I don't think income / status is something to be joked about.

AMD are seen as more of a value for money brand period.

It's no big deal. The cheap skate remarks are just made in jest. :D
 
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