British Grand Prix 2015, Silverstone - Race 9/19

Sick and tired of people (Lauda this time) trotting out the tired only "see, nothing wrong with F1" after a good race.

One swallow doesn't make a summer. The fact remains that boring races are the norm, not the exception and the occasional good race doesn't make everything ok again.

A lot of it comes down to the circuits as well though, it seems the newer autodrome circuits, even though there's so much technology that contribute to their design, are worse entertainment than classic tracks.
 
Proper RAC Trophy being presented. Not that parp red plastic thing from last year.
Was good though to see Hamilton get his hands on it for the press conference afterwards though.
 
I should've been there this year but didn't have the money. One of my mates text me a picture earlier of himself being a few feet from Hamilton at the fence and in the picture you can see a phone being passed to Hamilton. Hamilton then signed the phone for my other mate... Gutted. That could've been my phone! Lol!
 

Every time Williams have been ahead at the start, Austria last year, elsewhere, Mercs have got stuck behind them and either they pit first and easily under cut or they stay out a few laps and go faster than Williams do on fresh tires and end up ahead.

I'm not sure if it's been literally every time or 98% of the time, but Williams have been caught by merc easily on track not often passed on track unless things like mistakes/rain happen, then lose out in the pits. It was a near certainty.
 
Was that a good race 2/3rds of it bored me stiff? Just as it looked like we were going to get a battle for the lead the rain changed it completely and the race was setlled in 45 seconds of rain and pitstops. I feel a little for Rosberg 45 seconds difference in timing of rain might have utterly changed the result and he did well in the poor conditions.

Williams threw it away numpties.

I have watched F1 since the mid eighties and the 12 or 14 vaguely interesting laps today aren't enough to make it a worthwhile investment in time, when most weeks you don't even get that much. Frankly if I didn't get Sky Sports for Super Rugby I probably would barely watch F1 anymore.
 
Was that a good race 2/3rds of it bored me stiff? Just as it looked like we were going to get a battle for the lead the rain changed it completely and the race was setlled in 45 seconds of rain and pitstops. I feel a little for Rosberg 45 seconds difference in timing of rain might have utterly changed the result and he did well in the poor conditions.

Williams threw it away numpties.

I have watched F1 since the mid eighties and the 12 or 14 vaguely interesting laps today aren't enough to make it a worthwhile investment in time, when most weeks you don't even get that much. Frankly if I didn't get Sky Sports for Super Rugby I probably would barely watch F1 anymore.

Apart from that though
 
Every time Williams have been ahead at the start, Austria last year, elsewhere, Mercs have got stuck behind them and either they pit first and easily under cut or they stay out a few laps and go faster than Williams do on fresh tires and end up ahead.

I'm not sure if it's been literally every time or 98% of the time, but Williams have been caught by merc easily on track not often passed on track unless things like mistakes/rain happen, then lose out in the pits. It was a near certainty.

Massa and Bottas were not holding Lewis and Rosberg up. They were clearly running lower downforce, so tyre degradation would have been reasonable. All they needed to do was pit before/simultaneously with Mercedes and they'd have been in with a superb chance. Of course the rain changed things significantly, but I don't see how you can say they were ALWAYS going to lose out in the pits.
 
Sick and tired of people (Lauda this time) trotting out the tired only "see, nothing wrong with F1" after a good race.

One swallow doesn't make a summer. The fact remains that boring races are the norm, not the exception and the occasional good race doesn't make everything ok again.

And now Croft at it. "If I get any tweets about F1 being boring..."

F1 as a whole IS boring. We've had to wait for nine races to get a great one like that - the rest of the season has been plain dull.
 
And now Croft at it. "If I get any tweets about F1 being boring..."

F1 as a whole IS boring. We've had to wait for nine races to get a great one like that - the rest of the season has been plain dull.

The TV guys can't be too hard on F1 though, they still have to sell it. Although Crofty does seem a bit excessively adamant that it's not boring.
 
Was that a good race 2/3rds of it bored me stiff? Just as it looked like we were going to get a battle for the lead the rain changed it completely and the race was setlled in 45 seconds of rain and pitstops. I feel a little for Rosberg 45 seconds difference in timing of rain might have utterly changed the result and he did well in the poor conditions.

Williams threw it away numpties.

I have watched F1 since the mid eighties and the 12 or 14 vaguely interesting laps today aren't enough to make it a worthwhile investment in time, when most weeks you don't even get that much. Frankly if I didn't get Sky Sports for Super Rugby I probably would barely watch F1 anymore.

Seems lots of people complaining F1 isn't worth investing any time in feel it's perfectly fine to invest loads of time in writing essays about how crap it is.

If you don't like it, fine, but why don't you just **** off and leave the rest of us who do to enjoy it, rather than filling everything about F1 with pointless negativity.

F1 won't get any better if all everyone ever does is moan.
 
Actually fair's fair Toto - credit to the team for getting it all right today. If we're going to criticise you when you screw up, only right that you get the credit when you don't :)
 
Massa and Bottas were not holding Lewis and Rosberg up. They were clearly running lower downforce, so tyre degradation would have been reasonable. All they needed to do was pit before/simultaneously with Mercedes and they'd have been in with a superb chance. Of course the rain changed things significantly, but I don't see how you can say they were ALWAYS going to lose out in the pits.

What were you watching? Look at the gap Lewis pulled once in clear air, both Mercs were help up a lot by Williams.
 
lol, Grosjean taps Ricciardo then decides the best reaction is to swerve to his other side and end Maldonado's race... again. Alonso didn't really appear to have any issue, just made a stupid mistake and ruined Button's race.
 
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