The labour Leader thread...

Freddie1980 said:
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43 years old and has zero real world life experience out side of politics. So she is what? Ed Miliband in skirt?

She won't win anyway, I get the feeling the days of the career politician are coming to end and are somewhat 'unfashionable'. Andy Burnham is the next leader the only thing that's going to stop him from becoming so is a major scandal and he is forced to quit the party.
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how in the hell do you get those jobs with a history degree
 
mid_gen said:
A lot of people might not want to hear it....but what Labour need is a new Tony Blair. A leader, with a bit of political and media savvy, and, dare I say it, gravitas. I don't see anyone putting their hand up....
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Although most socialists are very vocal, they are an ever shirking minority in the UK. The only way Labour will get into power is to become Tory-lite again, which goes against their principles. And what would be the point of voting Tory-lite when you can vote for the real thing?
 
robgmun said:
Although most socialists are very vocal, they are an ever shirking minority in the UK. The only way Labour will get into power is to become Tory-lite again, which goes against their principles. And what would be the point of voting Tory-lite when you can vote for the real thing?
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What do you mean "again"? That's pretty much exactly what they were offering at this election.
 
Kendall grew up in the village of Abbots Langley in Hertfordshire and attended Watford Grammar School for Girls. She then studied at Queens' College, Cambridge, graduating with a first in history in 1993.
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Grammar school and then Cambridge University - I'm sure she's well able to relate to the average Labour voter then? :rolleyes:
 
robgmun said:
It was right enough for the electorate that's for sure, it's gone far too left compared to what it was before.
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What they were offering was exactly "tory lite". They were going to continue with austerity, just "not as much". The party and the country will get nothing from them continuing down that route. They need to offer a viable alternative to the conservatives and have the ability to sell it to the media and to the public if they're going to get elected again. That's what the new leader will have on their shoulders, not simply being less worse than the conservatives because the electorate have shown that they see right through that. People have enough trouble believing their vote will make a difference without the parties actually making it true.
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ay-from-another-he-already-owns-10273311.html

Andy Burnham has been claiming more than £17,000 a year in expenses to rent a flat in London despite owning another property a short walk from Westminster.

The Labour leadership favourite has received £ 1,449.98 a month since July 2012 to rent a flat close to the property he already owns in Kennington, southeast London.

Mr Burnham moved from his original flat, for which he claimed expenses, just before parliamentary rules changed in August 2012, banning MPs from claiming mortgage interest on second homes.

He now receives rental income from the property he owns, while receiving taxpayers’ money to cover the cost of his rented flat.
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It's ok though, it is within the rules.
 
delta0 said:
Well it seems Corbyn is leading the leadership race now.

Hahahaha..

How did this happen?
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While he may not have as widespread electoral appeal, at least he sticks to his principles I guess.

He's significantly more appealing than the rest of the contenders.
 
OldCoals said:
I am baffled as to why Labour supports would ever vote for Corbyn, if he is leader, Labour have no chance of getting elected in 2020.
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i don't believe they do no matter who is the leader, so might as well put a no body there and not ruin a decent contenders chance of becoming a leader in 2025 on wards.

in 2020 we will have no deficit, the debt will start to be paid off, money will be splashed around for the last 2 years of this government, and i believe boris will be looking to be the new leader of the conservatives. i honestly can't see how the next government wont be a majority conservative, esp given how well they just did with the much worse situation they were in compared to what it'll be like in 2020.
 
A strong Labour opposition which actually opposes the Tories should be welcomed by everyone. They don't need to be elected to make a difference, although I think Corbyn will be good for the party.
 
It's interesting isn't it? Corbyn struggles to get the required number of nominations from the Parliamentary Labour Party, but seemingly has no problem getting votes from Labour party members. This seems to indicate to me that the PLP has completely different values and opinions from that of the grass roots.
 
Fairly sure the answer is no said:
in 2020 we will have no deficit, the debt will start to be paid off.
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You really believe that? Based on the evidence Elmarko has presented earlier in the thread, purely cutting spending doesn't reduce the need to borrow and/or debt by the same quantity.

I'd be extremely surprised if they meet their "long term economic plan".

My take on the Tories winning is because they had a single plan and message and got it through to the country over a space of 5 years. They managed to convince people that running a country is like running a personal bank account and as soon as Labour stopped contesting this, they just became a less trustworthy and faltering alternative.

At least with Corbyn at the helm Labour may be able to stick to a coherent message for the next 5 years.
 
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