Newcastle mass murder plot - no terrorism ere mate

And I'll repeat to the OP in big letters -

Even if the boy in the OP was Muslim it still wouldn't be terrorism because what he planned wasn't terrorism but mass murder because he was pee'd off with the College and t'ing

What a load of BS.

Both of us know if he was muslim and had the weapons cache that Lyndam did he would have been incarcerated by the press as a terrorist irrespective. Funny how they (the press) are all so quick to analyse a muslims background and go into every single life detail but when it comes to the terror from others its like yeah, he's just mental - nothing to see here. Only ONE mainstream media outlet used the term terrorist to describe Liam (The Mirror)

Granted I conceded that the UK label of terrorism is mainly applicable to political agendas - I havn't disputed that, but it does also state on the MI5 website that it doesn't have to be a political case but that they MAINLY are.

Irrespective of his agenda anyhoo - he was planning to commit a terror attack as he clearly is quoted as saying himself - strike fear into the hearts of the general indiscriminate public, even used the words terror and if you want to go as far as political agendas he clearly references Brevik, which most of you are overlooking.

Will remember in future that this forum only counts extreme politicians and general muslims as terrorists. If it was a muslim this thread would have been hitting 500 pages by now.....

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2015/07/terrorism-muslim-crimes-150701100658766.html

Terrorism: For Muslim crimes only?
Terrorism has become so closely linked to Islam that labelling white crime with it violates Western cultural realities.

...the most troubling problem with this term "terrorism" is that it has become a sponge word. It absorbs a spectrum of social malaise with multiple causes and files them under Islamic and Muslim acts only.
 
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Zoomee, you are one of the worst kind of people in society atm.

On top of you inability to read, or comprehend simple definitions, you keep trying to push the race card...

Pipe down; and stop bringing colour/race/religion or whatever into all of your arguments. It's dull.
 
Multiple threads, many 10+, one 30+.

So it would be case when a terrorist does something people get all arsey irrespective of the actual colour of their skin or ideology.

People maybe, and I am throwing this crazy idea out there so bear with me, - people maybe just don't like terrorists.

Now when you have a group that has given the perception that it creates, facilitates and does not denounce said terrorists then people project that dislike onto the group. Crazy idea I know, but thanks for sticking with me all the same.
 
So it would be case when a terrorist does something people get all arsey irrespective of the actual colour of their skin or ideology.

People maybe, and I am throwing this crazy idea out there so bear with me, - people maybe just don't like terrorists.

Now when you have a group that has given the perception that it creates, facilitates and does not denounce said terrorists then people project that dislike onto the group. Crazy idea I know, but thanks for sticking with me all the same.

I also vaguely remember the IRA being frowned upon back in the day. My memory is fading as I approach the big 3-0 but I don't recall them being extremists of the Muslamic variety.
 
Yep, there weren't exactly the most popular of groups were they. I also seem to remember the Irish population got a bit of hassle when they demonstrated sympathies.
 
Why was the recent stabbing attack in isreal not considered a terrorist attack? From what i can see that attack has all the hallmarks of Jewish terror. Similarly the arson attack seemed politically motivated and just as much a terrorist attack as any other. At the least they are both examples of hate crimes perpetrated by Jewish fanatics.
 
Why was the recent stabbing attack in isreal not considered a terrorist attack? From what i can see that attack has all the hallmarks of Jewish terror. Similarly the arson attack seemed politically motivated and just as much a terrorist attack as any other. At the least they are both examples of hate crimes perpetrated by Jewish fanatics.

Recall seeing them in the news but haven't looked at them. Do you have any links for us?
 
What a load of BS.

Both of us know if he was muslim and had the weapons cache that Lyndam did he would have been incarcerated by the press as a terrorist irrespective. Funny how they (the press) are all so quick to analyse a muslims background and go into every single life detail but when it comes to the terror from others its like yeah, he's just mental - nothing to see here. Only ONE mainstream media outlet used the term terrorist to describe Liam (The Mirror)

Granted I conceded that the UK label of terrorism is mainly applicable to political agendas - I havn't disputed that, but it does also state on the MI5 website that it doesn't have to be a political case but that they MAINLY are.

Irrespective of his agenda anyhoo - he was planning to commit a terror attack as he clearly is quoted as saying himself - strike fear into the hearts of the general indiscriminate public, even used the words terror and if you want to go as far as political agendas he clearly references Brevik, which most of you are overlooking.

Will remember in future that this forum only counts extreme politicians and general muslims as terrorists. If it was a muslim this thread would have been hitting 500 pages by now.....

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2015/07/terrorism-muslim-crimes-150701100658766.html

are you intentionally being daft and argumentative? I have previously given a very simply explanation as to why this guy isn't a terrorist.

it would not matter if it was a muslim, hindu, catholic, protestant. it was not a terrorist plot/plan.

the kid didn't plan to go on a run and gun spree because of any political, religious fanatical reason.
he was planning it because he felt hard done to by his college. it really is that simply.

stop trying to see racism where there isn't any. it only makes you look silly and deflects from those situations where racism has taken place. cry wolf and all that - people will stop listening/investigating calls of racism altogether because people like you.
 
I also seem to remember the Irish population got a bit of hassle when they demonstrated sympathies.

didn't have to show any sort of sympathy to get hassled. you only had to have a certain accent and be of a certain religion. but that's a conversation for a different time and different thread!
 
Why was the recent stabbing attack in isreal not considered a terrorist attack? From what i can see that attack has all the hallmarks of Jewish terror. Similarly the arson attack seemed politically motivated and just as much a terrorist attack as any other. At the least they are both examples of hate crimes perpetrated by Jewish fanatics.

That's one way to take a thread off topic... That ongoing "dispute" is a whole different discussion.
 
The fact he was linked with brevik seems to allude some of you.

But he wasn't, and the article you've quoted doesn't say that he was.

the only 'link' to Brevik was that he mentioned him in a conversation with a girl. it's quite a jump from mentioning someones name and being liked to them or their beliefs. but the OP is grasping at straws trying to create further tension and racial divide.
 
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