The labour Leader thread...

I found Jeremy Corbyn's sycophantic praise, in his victory speech, of his former opponents very sickening. Talk about OTT.
 
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Woohoo!! Stunning level of victory across all three classes of voter. The big question is how the Labour party can pull together, or not, in the coming months.
 
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MichaelAwkward said:
TBH. All of the people saying they'll resign/refuse to work with Corbyn are the worst of New Labour anyway. A bunch of mouth pieces for careerism and spineless puppets for neoliberalism. Good riddance.
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Perhaps.

But the acid test is the general election.

One political theory is that Corbyn is "genuine", a normal bloke, appealing to the public in a highly ironic way in much the same way Farage does, i.e. agree or not, saying what he believes, and sticking to it, and not just a spin-master saying what he thinks we want to hear. And that, as a result, will re-invigorate a disenchanted left, leading to a win.

The other theory is essentially new-Labourist which is that to get elected, a party has to be where the people are. And that the people are in the centre, not on the left.

We will now get to see both theories tested.
 
One More Solo said:
I think people predicting Tory domination are getting ahead of themselves. The electorate are very unpredictable and a Corbyn led party could attract back a lot of the hardline left voters that left Labour in the general election.

I'm not a huge Corbyn fan but it will be nice to have some actual opposition and ideological differences in politics for once.
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They might be getting ahead of themselves and it is certainly very presumptuous to predict an election result 4 years ahead. They're hard enough to predict 4 hours ahead.

But there's some historical evidence supporting that view. When was the last time the UK elected a hard left government? Other than the New Labour so despised by the left, when was the last time Labour were elected to serve two, never mind three, successive full terms?

Unless the country has lurched significantly to the left, there's reason to justify why just about every leading PLP figure over the few decades thinks, and publicly says, this will be a disaster for Labour. Only time will tell if they're right.
 
At least in Tom Watson we have a leading politician who understands the Internet. Hopefully he'll start shouting about how bone-headed the governments war on encryption is.
 
Well I've always voted for labour but no more. I guess the Lib Dems are an option if you don't want to vote Tory.

My younger left leaning generation that managed to get Corbyn into leadership will be massively outweighed by the main Labour electorate come next elections (may even change their tune as they get into their late 20s, early 30s). Unlikely to attract any Tory or UKIP voters, and the Green Party didn't exactly get a massive amoubt of votes.

Will they win back any Scottish seats? I doubt it.
 
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Could be interesting.

I think over the next few years if this immigrant thing gets out of control you will see opinions polarizing one way or another. The party that backs the biggest popular opinion may well make massive gains rightly or wrongly.

The tories are the best option right NOW for the economy and stance on europe imo but if the middle east gets worse and the migrants ramp up, forcing europe to rethink the border controls and so on then things could change dramaticially.

If cameron sticks it out the tories could well be in power for a long time.... time will tell.

UKIP has to quickly choose wether to suck up to tory voters or go after this new apparent hardline support for corbin. UKIP are quickly running out of a "being different option" party, assuming corbyn does what he says on the tin. Saying that i am not really sure what his opinions on the migrant crisis really are.... and i say crisis meaning in a few years if the predictions of this b eing the tip of the iceburg turn out to be true.
 
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AtreuS said:
The tories are the best option right NOW for the economy.
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Debatable. Nobody has a crystal ball.

It also depends what you mean by economy. Best for the neoliberal western economy that relies on debt to create growth? Probably. Great job. Best for a restructuring of the economy for the new low-growth future? Doubt it.
 
muon said:
Well I've always voted for labour but no more. I guess the Lib Dems are an option if you don't want to vote Tory.

My younger left leaning generation that managed to get Corbyn into leadership will be massively outweighed by the main Labour electorate come next elections (may even change their tune as they get into their late 20s, early 30s). Unlikely to attract any Tory or UKIP voters, and the Green Party didn't exactly get a massive amoubt of votes.

Will they win back any Scottish seats? I doubt it.
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Yeah, they did a survey the majority of corbyn supporters were younger.
 
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