Paranoid and imagining things that never happened... might wanna lay off the drugs.
The labour Leader thread...
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Paranoid and imagining things that never happened... might wanna lay off the drugs.
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// Time for fresh new faces in Labour, not the same old crap we've had for years.Best thing I've read in the thread mate!
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Top 0.01% pay more in tax than the bottom 30%: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...rners-pay-more-tax-than-bottom-9-million.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ners-pay-a-quarter-of-nations-income-tax.html
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffee...re-from-the-rich-than-any-uk-chancellor-ever/
Quite clearly thought it through. I'm really not concerned about the rich getting richer. If you look worldwide over the last 100 years the highest 1% have become astronomically richer than the poorest 1%, yet the number of people in absolute poverty has fallen by the billions. Genuinely billions.
That's just a ridiculous comparison.
I wouldn't expect the bottom x% to pay any tax as they'll be below the 10k allowance.
What proportion of their income does the Top X% pay versus the middle class?
That is a proper comparison.
Income tax comparisons also ignore National Insurance, VAT, Duties and Tax Credits (or Benefits).
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Well thats because they have more of the worlds money than ever before. But the rate of their increased contribution is far lower than the rate of growth of their wealth.
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An MP of 30 years and who is going to be 70+ at the next election is a fresh face?
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Indeed. It's a ridiculous argument to point out that the rich are being taxed more than ever before... well duh, they're richer than ever before!
As a proportion of their wealth however, it's a completely different picture.
As a proportion of their wealth however, it's a completely different picture.
Saying "The Top 1% who now contribute more in taxation than ever before?" in argument against the idea of a general Tory move toward relieving the tax burden of the richest is what you've not thought through.
The reason for them paying more tax is demonstrably unrelated to tory taxation changes, and is simply because they earn so much more, and at a much faster increasing rate, than everyone else.
You're not bothered by the rich getting richer: good for you. Doesn't make your argument hold any more water.
It's also a bit disingenuous to talk about "absolute poverty" in such a manner as it should be considered a success of making all these rich folk hugely wealthy. What exactly is the relationship there?
Wow, that's incredible..
I think some thanks should be in order."The highest paid 3,000 people in the UK pay more income tax than the bottom nine million, according to official Government statistics."
Hohohooooooo well done Labour on handing the keys to another election to the Conservatives.
Whilst his policies will appeal to some you tend to find that Brits come out generally sensible on election days, they'll realise going back to policies that were outdated over 20 years ago are in no way going to help us now.
Well played, a marvellous suicide.
Whilst his policies will appeal to some you tend to find that Brits come out generally sensible on election days, they'll realise going back to policies that were outdated over 20 years ago are in no way going to help us now.
Well played, a marvellous suicide.
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1: Did you know who he was before June?
2: I don't see what age has to do with it. It's not like you suddenly lose all your mental faculties the day you reach retirement age.
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NHS in Norn Iron wasn't destroyed by the Tories.
We've little to none of it privatised, and out hospital A&E times, our waiting list and our success rates are appalling.
We've more contribution per head than anywhere else in the UK, and the Tories have no influence here.
The NHS is simply screwed as it isn't ever going to be a coverall service in its current form. Little to nothing is spent on educating people, or indeed forcing people to improve themselves, and we'll continue to spend more on effects of diabetes without attempting to actually dismantle the cause.
More money is spent on hospital admissions covering removal of rotten teeth from children than any other children's surgical grouping. How much is spend treating the cause, or better, taxing the wholly preventable cause to such a degree it more than pays for itself.
Sugar Tax.
If Corbyn proposed such a thing, it would be a great idea.
NHS ruined itself, but having no long term direction, and no long term plan.
Throwing money at a trust so they can employ every Indian and European doctor, and then import from further afield is an awful way to make the NHS better.
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Excellent result. Labour are completely unelectable for the next 10 years at least. Decent, hard-working tax payers can breathe a sigh of relief.
Look at how old the guy is, he will be dead of old age by the time Labour comes to the next election
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I love how Middle Englanders have taken the media spin on Corbyn hook, line and sinker, despite more economists supporting his general economic direction more than austerity and Osborne's.
You only need to read up on what Joseph Stiglitz and Paul Krugman have said about austerity, not what the establishment leads you to believe.