One step closer to war with Russia?

scorza said:
They also don't believe Russia has the capability for precision strikes which is why we're already hearing about three hospitals that Russia has bombed.
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You don't hear about the countless civilians that have been killed in the last year by the US either. Purposely bombing schools, weddings, parties and hospitals.

The Russians have done more good in 2 weeks, than the yanks have done in a year.
https://www.rt.com/news/318193-russian-military-syria-isis/ for example.
 
I think there should be law to punish news agencies that report information that has no factual evidence to stand on.

This however would backfire as "Media control" but something has to be done to keep those guys in check.
 
scorza said:
Those comments will be mostly Russian troll factory output. Most people I speak to are appalled that Russia has decided to support the Assad regime, who are up to their knees in the blood of their own people. They also don't believe Russia has the capability for precision strikes which is why we're already hearing about three hospitals that Russia has bombed.

Edit: question for the OP? Would you prefer it if our fighters didn't fire back when fired upon?
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Assad is no angel but the sad truth of the matter is these middle east countries need a mad dog to keep order. Western style democracy just does not work in these countries.

As for Russia supposedly blowing up hospitals with their "dumb weapons", this is the first I have heard of it (I may have missed something so am willing to be corrected). I do know though that it was America that repeatedly attacked a hospital a few days ago with their "smart weapons".

The west has really stepped up the anti Russian propaganda machine since the Russians started bombing in Syria. The thing is, Russia is the only nation acting completely legally. They have been invited by Assad to help him defeat his enemies. That includes "moderate" islamist fighters as well as ISIS.

The West are getting their knickers in a twist because Russia is attacking the very people the west have been supplying weapons to and also training. The Russians have also shown up the west for the way they have halfheartedly been attacking ISIS.

I say good on Russia. The sooner they defeat all of these islamists, the sooner the dreadful war in Syria can end.
 
Psyisk said:
Yes can't help but think this sounds like US throwing its toys out the pram because Russia are actually doing what it should be doing. Now it will have to start another meaningless war to make money through its oversized military expenditure; of course UK will follow blindly.
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+1
 
mmj_uk said:
Not really because Russia aren't going to attack our planes, Russia have even asked for an alliance to destroy ISIS but the west won't have any of it because I get the feeling ISIS are just pawns we're using in yet another illegal regime change escapade. If we want to be the good guy and oust evil dictators then why not start closer to home with Bahrain/Saudi etc, then we won't look like such hypocrites when we only go after the evil dictators who won't dance to our tune.
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Exactly. The UK and the USA are the worlds biggest provocateurs. Our governments are basically evil.
 
The Kremlin called in Britain’s military attaché for a dressing-down last night after reports that RAF pilots had been authorised to shoot down Russian warplanes in the Middle East.

The British diplomat was asked “to provide an official explanation” of reports that RAF Tornados in Iraq had being fitted with Asraam heat-seeking missiles. The weapons are designed for aerial combat. In London, Alexander Yakovenko, the Russian ambassador, said that he had “urgently requested explanations” from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

Responding to a Russian reporter yesterday, Mr Yakovenko said: “These reports are worrying, as they refer to senior cabinet members. We have urgently requested explanations from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.”

He added: “The very premise of a potential conflict of UK and Russian combat aircraft over Iraq is incomprehensible. It is known that the Russian air force does not take part in strikes against Isis targets in the said country.

“At the same time, the RAF does not participate in the anti-Isis coalition strikes in Syria. What is the goal of such a  provocative  media  leak?”
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Got them worried now. :p
 
adolf hamster said:
Surely thats standard rules of engagement? You're allowed to shoot back.
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I don't know much about aerial combat but I'd suggest that with modern weapon technology he who fires first wins? Of course the aggressor could fire first and miss and then the other pilot could shoot back. Would the RAF pilot have sufficient time to realise he was being attacked, identity who was attacking him and from where and fire back before the incoming missile struck?

Quote from original link: RAF jets will be armed with advanced short range air-to-air missiles and British and Nato pilots have been told to fight for their lives if they are fired upon by Vladimir Putin’s air force.

I don't know if the question has been asked if the Russian Aircraft are already fitted with the necessary technology? I very much doubt that Russian pilots need to be told to fight for their lives if they are fired upon......
 
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lovelyhead said:
Assad is no angel but the sad truth of the matter is these middle east countries need a mad dog to keep order. Western style democracy just does not work in these countries.

As for Russia supposedly blowing up hospitals with their "dumb weapons", this is the first I have heard of it (I may have missed something so am willing to be corrected). I do know though that it was America that repeatedly attacked a hospital a few days ago with their "smart weapons".

The west has really stepped up the anti Russian propaganda machine since the Russians started bombing in Syria. The thing is, Russia is the only nation acting completely legally. They have been invited by Assad to help him defeat his enemies. That includes "moderate" islamist fighters as well as ISIS.

The West are getting their knickers in a twist because Russia is attacking the very people the west have been supplying weapons to and also training. The Russians have also shown up the west for the way they have halfheartedly been attacking ISIS.

I say good on Russia. The sooner they defeat all of these islamists, the sooner the dreadful war in Syria can end.
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It's amazing how many useful idiots there are who get their news from Russia Today and hold its coverage to the same standards as the western media. Then again coming from a Scottish nationalist socialist we shouldn't be surprised.

To address your points:

- If Assad is the mad dog needed to keep order in Syria, why is there a civil war there happening?
- Article on Russia bombing hospitals in Syria: http://www.newsweek.com/ngo-says-ru...ree-syrian-medical-facilities-two-days-380657
- US and French airstrikes in Syria on the Islamic State are perfectly legal due to 'self-defence' clause. I doubt that Russia will ever get hauled up before the international criminal court but supporting a regime committing widespread and terrible war crimes may not be as legal as you think.
- Russia has acted illegally by annexing Crimea and continues to act illegally in eastern Ukraine.
 
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