Fine, they get fed to the pigs, then the pigs get fed to the next inmate, who gets fed to more pigs, etc.
US white supremacist sentenced to death
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Fine, they get fed to the pigs, then the pigs get fed to the next inmate, who gets fed to more pigs, etc.
Then how does he die if no one murders him?
He has been sentenced to death by judge, jury and anyone registered as a citizen of the state.
If a majority agrees someone should die, does that make it it OK and not murder?
While I see the the disaster of this, I'm also a proponent of hard federalism and that somewhat requires an ultimate penalty, but its still murder... You can't sugar coat it, regardless of who the victim is...law surrounding murder in general is bloated with pointless trivialities to reduce sentences and increase payouts.
An executioner executes him on state orders.
One of the things that defines murder is the unlawful killing aspect, sanctioned execution is legal.
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I see what you mean and agree in theory, but my way of thinking is that essentially it isn't OK to do whatever you want to in life, including take someone elses and yet have a 'right to life'.
I think that ultimately it isn't murder in the strictest sense as by killing others in cold blood forgoes that right to life.
For instance, you (probably) wouldnt call all soldiers, doctors who make the decision to say discontinue resuscitation, firemen facing massive odds of their own death to rescue murderers by proxy.
The guy is 74, he'll probably meet a natural death by the time they get to put him in the chair.
He knows that, which is why he didn't take any legal representation. Its either delay it and get life, or say ok i'm going to get fried, but its going to forever before they get around to it, so i may aswell go out saying Heil Hitler, which is exactly what he did.
He knows that, which is why he didn't take any legal representation. Its either delay it and get life, or say ok i'm going to get fried, but its going to forever before they get around to it, so i may aswell go out saying Heil Hitler, which is exactly what he did.
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Just because something is legal, somewhere on this planet, does not make it right.
You are quite correct, but murder, specifically, is a legal term defining an unlawful killing, not a "right" one. For instance, get involved in a drunken scuffle, give someone a shove and they fall, crack their head open and die, is it murder? No, because of lack of intent. Though it might very well be manslaughter (murder 2 in the US). It is unlawful killing, but lacks the requisite intent for murder in the UK, or murder 1 in the US. Or, someone attacks you on the street, you defend yourself using reasonable force and they die, is it murder? No, because self-defence using reasonable force is a legal way to kill someone.
A state execution may or may not be "right", though that's a pretty subjective assessment, but if it follows the recognised legal system of the state, in that jurisdiction, it isn't murder.
All murders are killings, but not all killings are murder.
And just because something is illegal somewhere on this Planet, does not make it wrong.
"Morals and Ethics" are the costume jewellery of civilisation!
What is in one year is out the next!
None of it is absolute.
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Jews, Muslims, Christians, whatever...
Being so-called "white supremacist", why is this guy bringing skin colour into this, when last time I checked Judaism was a religion?
I have no opinion of the sentence that got handed down, but I really don't get this race vs religion debate. Race ≠ religion.
Being so-called "white supremacist", why is this guy bringing skin colour into this, when last time I checked Judaism was a religion?
I have no opinion of the sentence that got handed down, but I really don't get this race vs religion debate. Race ≠ religion.
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Deserves? Yes.
Put to death? No.
Put to death? No.
I don't fully understand why far right groups have such a issue with Jews,
I'm assuming they are using Hitler as a role model and perpetuating his thinking, but that was 80 years ago and it was pretty irrational at the time.
I've even less of an idea why an American white supremacist would care about such a group when pragmatically Hispanics are more numerous.
I'm assuming they are using Hitler as a role model and perpetuating his thinking, but that was 80 years ago and it was pretty irrational at the time.
I've even less of an idea why an American white supremacist would care about such a group when pragmatically Hispanics are more numerous.
It is the US Blacks who really hate Jews.
In those circles i believe Jews are believed to be the main organizers of migration into white countrys. And of course when German Jew owned banks crashed and people had to use a wheelbarrow of money to buy bread they were always going to take the flak.
Same with Wall Street and the 2009 crash there are a lot of Jewish people on wall street the Wolf of Wall Street himself is Jewish, So is Bernake and Greenspan. Then you take a look at the Israel lobby and how much control they have. Next up is the election where Hillary is going to be blamed as being a Jew. I have already saw an article on her daughters Jewish-intermarrage and how Israel and the Jews will propel her to president. That is what i grasp anyways, And when you read is it is really that far fetched when they are an elite minority? I think this is the tip of the icberg the more migration that comes the more they will blame Jews. I personally do not know who is doing what but the above facts speak for themselves.
Why would Jews want (for example) millions of people who hate them to suddenly migrate to Germany and have better lives?
As for America, if anything they should try to preserve the (white) political status quo from which they benefit the most.
Playing disparate groups off each other is one way of staying alive, if all those groups start looking the same then Israel is toast.
Yea thats what i was thinking. They do themselves no favours though by clawing for power. Just look at Milliband v Cameron. You would think most dumb brits think these guys are 100% british. Take another look infact both have Jewish ancestors. The only people who were going to win in that election was British Jews, Because they had both bases covered! Here is he in a delightful trip to Israel boasting about it.
This is what breeds paranoia. Google his Grandfather Emile Levita for yourself he was a banker rofl.
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I don't believe in the death sentence, its an easy way out...
instead they should be made to live in solitary with little to no human interaction living off only rice for the rest of their lives until they loose their marbles.
And once they've lost it they should all be thrown in a pit together and the last man standing gets the reward and satisfaction of a clean and simple death to end their pain and also as a last punishment.
yeah there is definitely something wrong with me
instead they should be made to live in solitary with little to no human interaction living off only rice for the rest of their lives until they loose their marbles.
And once they've lost it they should all be thrown in a pit together and the last man standing gets the reward and satisfaction of a clean and simple death to end their pain and also as a last punishment.
yeah there is definitely something wrong with me
He's massively two faced though, what he says depends entirely on who he is talking to.
at the Muslim News Awards for Excellence
"events like this challenge the narrow, intolerant view about Muslims and about Islam that still exists in parts of our country today."
at a major security conference in Slovaki
"it is easier to go from being a troubled teenager to a jihadist if extremism ‘is quietly condoned online or perhaps even in parts of your local community’"
Same for two faced MerkelAngela Merkel: Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democratic Union party
German multiculturalism has 'utterly failed'
Speaking to the European Union
"If Europe fails on the question of refugees, then it won't be the Europe we wished for"
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An interesting question, although i'm probably going to end up derailing the thread here, is for those who are against the death penalty (and yes you do have a point, especially with the issue of mistaken verdicts). What would be the alternative?
Life imprisonment is enormously expensive and leads to overflowing prisons, and as much as the reformation beleif is true in principle, in practice it doesnt always work (like many of humanity's good intentions)
This man is a murderer and isn't even sorry, surely there's no place for him in society and death is a much cheaper alternative to keeping him locked up, clothed and fed for the rest of his days.
Life imprisonment is enormously expensive and leads to overflowing prisons, and as much as the reformation beleif is true in principle, in practice it doesnt always work (like many of humanity's good intentions)
This man is a murderer and isn't even sorry, surely there's no place for him in society and death is a much cheaper alternative to keeping him locked up, clothed and fed for the rest of his days.