** Star Wars Episode VII - SPOILERS WITHIN **

Shamikebab said:
...what the **** are you on about. Are you asking why Rey and Finn couldn't see the future?
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No...I wondering why for drama and entertainment the First order didn't turn up and get gassed...

What was written was a Scottish guy turns up and a Thai dude who get eaten by silly monsters....
 
Raymond Lin said:
Use what? the poisonous gas?

They were just about to as soon as they see stormtroopers enter. They had entered the hatch after all wearing masks.

Seriously, were you even watching the same movie? :confused:
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But they didn't...what we got was daft...Thats my point...!!!!!!

It would have been far better having a standoff with Stormtroopers...
 
easyrider said:
No...I wondering why for drama and entertainment the Fist order didn't turn up and get gassed...

What was written was a Scottish guy turns up and a Thai dude who get eaten by silly monsters....
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Er no, the scene was to reunite Rey, the falcon with Solo and Chewy.

Which leads us to the rest of the movie.

The bit about the other gangs so they have a reason to get rid of the big ship and leave on the Falcon, making it the main ship.

I can't believe that needs explaining...perhaps we need Lucas to write the dialogue again and explain everything.

easyrider said:
But they didn't...what we got was daft...Thats my point...!!!!!!

It would have been far better having a standoff with Stormtroopers...
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Then you would have complaint how they got so strong so fast and fought off a battalion all by themselves !
 
Raymond Lin said:
Er no, the scene was to reunite Rey, the falcon with Solo and Chewy.

Which leads us to the rest of the movie.

The bit about the other gangs so they have a reason to get rid of the big ship and leave on the Falcon, making it the main ship.

I can't believe that needs explaining...perhaps we need Lucas to write the dialogue again and explain everything.



Then you would have complaint how they got so strong so fast and fought off a battalion all by themselves !
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No they could have released the gas and killed the storm troopers...with very littel effort...They could have escaped down a Garbage shoot and with very little effort...I don't need it explaining it just was very good :p

This now gets me to Solo's character ARC...All the stuff he did in ep4 was undone..and now goes back to his old ways....? I just didn't buy it...
 
easyrider said:
No they could have released the gas and killed the storm troopers...I don't need it explaining it just was very good :p

This now gets me to Solo's character ARC...All the stuff he did in ep4 was undone..and now goes back to his old ways....? I just didn't buy it...
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They would have released the gas and killed Han Solo, then you would have complaint "I HATE JJ for killing off Solo that way"

Just admit it, nothing they do can live up to a section of fan boy like yourself so just save your breath and leave the rest of us who enjoyed the movie just enjoy the movie and stop trying to pick holes and ruining it for the rest of us.
 
Raymond Lin said:
They would have released the gas and killed Han Solo, then you would have complaint "I HATE JJ for killing off Solo that way"

Just admit it, nothing they do can live up to a section of fan boy like yourself so just save your breath and leave the rest of us who enjoyed the movie just enjoy the movie and stop trying to pick holes and ruining it for the rest of us.
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But Han could have grabbed a mask himself...Chewy with a mask on would have been brilliant! Han arguing with chewy to put it on...etc...

Its not ruining it...Its called discussion...It would be a very boring thread if everyone agreed....:confused:

MadMossy said:
We get it you don't like the film, now you can stop nit picking and leave the rest of us to enjoy it as it is.
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So other opinions are not allowed now?
 
easyrider said:
But Han could have grabbed a mask himself...Chewy with a mask on would have been brilliant! Han arguing with chewy to put it on...etc...

Its not ruining it...Its called discussion...It would be a very boring thread if everyone agreed....:confused:


So other opinions are not allowed now?
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Are you talking about there is not enough jokes in the movie?

What about the thumbs up lighter?

What about the reference to 12 and 14 parsecs?

There are many little jokes without resorting to silly physical ones like Chewy with a mask. You love The Jar Jar Binks don't you....just admit it.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Are you talking about there is not enough jokes in the movie?

What about the thumbs up lighter?

What about the reference to 12 and 14 parsecs?

There are many little jokes without resorting to silly physical ones like Chewy with a mask. You love The Jar Jar Binks don't you....just admit it.
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I have told you..The prequels don't exist in my world...They are not worthy of discussion.

As for the Jokes...No thats not what I'm saying...But Solo and Chewy arguing about a mask when about to get gassed would have been cool as....
 
SexyGreyFox said:
He's far from being a fan boy, a fan boy would lap everything up like me.
I DGAF about plot holes, just give me Aliens and stuff being blown up.
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He is the kind of fanboy that is so protective of the original that can't bear anything else with the logo of Star Wars attached without it being frame by frame like the original with original characters, and shot back in 1977.

He saw the original at a time that he was a child, that memory of happiness is so engrained into him it elevates the movie to a place that is untouchable which is fine but it is unfair to nit pick TFA and not nit pick Ep4 the same way.
 
Raymond Lin said:
He is the kind of fanboy that is so protective of the original that can't bear anything else with the logo of Star Wars attached without it being frame by frame like the original with original characters, and shot back in 1977.

He saw the original at a time that he was a child, that memory of happiness is so engrained into him it elevates the movie to a place that is untouchable which is fine but it is unfair to nit pick TFA and not nit pick Ep4 the same way.
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But you don't know me...So all this is assumption.

As for Ep4...Its riddled with problems...But thats not the fault of the movie... Its the fault of the lack of money...The lack of technology available at the time.

In 2015 with all the money in the world and all the special FX at ones disposal. It just highlights the fact that in cinema Characters and story are key...

TFA is mediocre at best...Its an OK SW film...And in this day and age its not really on...Get the writing right first...get the script in order and the rest will take care of itself...
 
easyrider said:
But you don't know me...So all this is assumption.

As for Ep4...Its riddled with problems...But thats not the fault of the movie... Its the fault of the lack of money...The lack of technology available at the time.

In 2015 with all the money in the world and all the special FX at ones disposal. It just highlights the fact that in cinema Characters and story are key...

TFA is mediocre at best...Its an OK SW film...And in this day and age its not really on...Get the writing right first...get the script in order and the rest will take care of itself...
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Then tell me the age you were when you watch Ep4 and let's see if I am right about my assumption. That is one thing we can clear up, right now. I highly doubt you watched that in your 20's or 30's.

You saying the TFA has bad special FX? are you really watching the same movie? Everyone praise the good special FX in this bar the few that stands out because the problem is they use particle effects so well on the rest of the movie so when something CGI pops up it stands out like a sore thumb. The movie should be praised on it's use on particle effects and making it look like the trilogy and not nit pick and put it down due to Snoke.

The movie done a LOT more right than it is wrong, the wrong that you think is wrong, is just nitpicking.
 
Raymond Lin said:
You saying the TFA has bad special FX? are you really watching the same movie? Everyone praise the good special FX in this bar the few that stands out because the problem is they use particle effects so well on the rest of the movie so when something CGI pops up it stands out like a sore thumb. The movie should be praised on it's use on particle effects and making it look like the trilogy and not nit pick and put it down due to Snoke.

The movie done a LOT more right than it is wrong, the wrong that you think is wrong, is just nitpicking.
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No I'm not saying the TFA had bad special FX...Where did I say that?

I said Charcters and story are key...Not special FX...and millions of dollors...

In 2015 with all the money in the world and all the special FX at ones disposal. It just highlights the fact that in cinema Characters and story are key...
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I'm done talking with you.
 
easyrider said:
No I'm not saying the TFA had bad special FX...Where did I say that?

I said Charcters and story are key...Not special FX...and millions of dollors...

I'm done talking with you.
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And I said the same, Hamill is a bad actor. Ridley is a good actor. The story is the same, the characters in the new one is good, practically everyone in the world agrees also. They all agree all the new leads done a good job. The best you can come up with is the reviewer can't shake Adam Driver's other jobs in his mind. Nothing about his performances or character development.

Still not told me how old you were when you watched Ep4 and your top 3 favourite movies....
 
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Raymond Lin said:
And I said the same, Hamill is a bad actor. Ridley is a good actor. The story is the same, the character in the new one is good, practically everyone in the world agrees also.

Still not told me how old you were when you watched Ep4 and your top 3 favourite movies....
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I'm done talking with you. You clearly have an agenda and pepper your posts with wild assumptions..

Plus characters can be badly acted...and still work. I have given you an example of this already which you quietly ignored.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
He is the kind of fanboy that is so protective of the original that can't bear anything else with the logo of Star Wars attached without it being frame by frame like the original with original characters, and shot back in 1977.

He saw the original at a time that he was a child, that memory of happiness is so engrained into him it elevates the movie to a place that is untouchable which is fine but it is unfair to nit pick TFA and not nit pick Ep4 the same way.
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It's funny that you were calling people armchair psychologists earlier on. What qualifies you for this postulation?
 
Chojin said:
It's funny that you were calling people armchair psychologists earlier on. What qualifies you for this postulation?
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The statement is based on what is shown in this thread, he clearly loves the original, the bit about his age can be easily solved, don't need to be a psychologist for that.
 
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