** Star Wars Episode VII - SPOILERS WITHIN **
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Ah yes, as soon as you say this I can now remember it is a proper fat little hand/arm. I even now remember thinking it was the ration fella at the time of watching.... Cheers!
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Nothing in star wars canon suggests there is a 3 years course required to pick up these abilities. In fact there is evidence to suggest it's just a matter of belief, not training.
And dark side abilities? Not sure where you've got that from.
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No course required eh? So what was the whole Jedi academy and the Sith apprentice scheme all about?
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Sith apprentice scheme? So you think Palpatine did a lot of classes with Vader on how to use Force Lightning? Please.
The simple answer is we don't know. At no point do we see training actually happen. How often do you see Obi Wan teaching Anakin how to use the force? Most of his training seems to be moral training on how to deal with the different challenges facing a jedi, from resolving diplomatic conflicts and the like.
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The force seems to be "concentrate" and then things can happen. Very little training is actually required.
Guess if you realise this, you can do anything.
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Yeah, no.
Again, what about the Jedi academy?
What about Luke training young Jedi before Kylo switched?
Why do you think the Sith have apprentices?
Who do you think teaches these people to use their abilities, or do you really believe that they all get there just by believing?
What was Yoda doing with Luke on that jungle planet?
The simple answer is that you just invent things in your head that suit your argument because you don't really know what you're talking about.
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Yoda literally tells us it's about belief in Episode 5.
You have no idea what they train in the academy because we're never shown. They take young children, they teach them all sorts of things they need to know to become a jedi (whose role at that time was like a diplomat, policeman and counselor all rolled into one.)
The sith have apprentices because it keeps them strong, they constantly have to stay strong or their apprentice will kill them and take over. What do you think The Emperor was teaching Vader?
Congratulations for ignoring my entire post and just repeating yourself though.
You have no idea what they train in the academy because we're never shown. They take young children, they teach them all sorts of things they need to know to become a jedi (whose role at that time was like a diplomat, policeman and counselor all rolled into one.)
The sith have apprentices because it keeps them strong, they constantly have to stay strong or their apprentice will kill them and take over. What do you think The Emperor was teaching Vader?
Congratulations for ignoring my entire post and just repeating yourself though.
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Oh dear...
So you actually believe that nothing is taught but philosophy and the power of belief and base your entire opinion on what is blatantly shown or not shown in the films?
So you actually believe that nothing is taught but philosophy and the power of belief and base your entire opinion on what is blatantly shown or not shown in the films?
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Yeah imagine basing my opinion on what is shown and not shown in the films rather than what Uncle Petey can make up...madness.
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The derp is strong in you.
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I eagerly await your canon explanation on how to train a jedi. I'm sure Disney will be contacting you any day now.
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Ok, go read some Star Wars books. Many of which were considered canon before Disney.
I recommend the Darth Bane Trilogy.
I recommend the Darth Bane Trilogy.
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I've read most of them thanks. But as you so cleverly pointed out, they're not canon any more so don't have any place in this discussion.
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Oh, they're mot canon any more... How convienent for your argument to throw out everything that went previously.
Since you've read them, how can you even be making the points you're trying to make?
This is more about ego and not being seen to lose an internet argument than actual reason.
Since you've read them, how can you even be making the points you're trying to make?
This is more about ego and not being seen to lose an internet argument than actual reason.
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I've cracked it!
Yoda said "try not; Do, there is no try"
Rey simply just do, soon she realised she has the force "repell mind reading", she just do!
Ta da!
Yoda said "try not; Do, there is no try"
Rey simply just do, soon she realised she has the force "repell mind reading", she just do!
Ta da!
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Maybe she just is THAT talented, or maybe it's just crap/lazy writing.
ED: I will add that in the books, it's not unknown for someone untrained to demonstrate impressive force abilities on instinct/emotion, rather than via proper training.
Some have it more than others.
Still, being shown the way by an experienced hand is needed to hone these abilities.
In Rey's case, I guess it's not too crazy, if still a bit of a stretch.
ED: I will add that in the books, it's not unknown for someone untrained to demonstrate impressive force abilities on instinct/emotion, rather than via proper training.
Some have it more than others.
Still, being shown the way by an experienced hand is needed to hone these abilities.
In Rey's case, I guess it's not too crazy, if still a bit of a stretch.
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