Not sure if its a scene from Jeremy Kyle or a script for bad an adult film. Either way, its funny
Yet they say the Bible teaches good....yeah, if you pick what parts to read.
Has anyone withdrawn their child from collective worship?
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Not sure if its a scene from Jeremy Kyle or a script for bad an adult film. Either way, its funny
Yet they say the Bible teaches good....yeah, if you pick what parts to read.
My daughter recently had a religious studies test. When she told me she came bottom of the class I was so proud of her
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Children should be nowhere near religion until they are 18, if they are still interested they can start there own foray into the world of magical pixies.]
So do you believe that the following facts should be taught:
Even though they are "to do" with religion?
You don't think they should be taught about the facts and cultures behind the various religions? (which is a VERY different thing from being taught to be religious).
hahah just read this, why have i never heard about this before
Religion is hilarious and ridiculously stupid
My daughter recently had a religious studies test. When she told me she came bottom of the class I was so proud of her
Because of her inability to answer simple questions? On a subject that deals with more than simply religion?
Not a lot to be proud of.
I got a Z in RE - i was pretty proud considering the worst mark you are supposed to be able to get is a U lol.
Probably because my RE teacher hated me because all I did was shoot down whatever she was talking about with science
indeed such great moral messages as if your brother dies you have to shag his wife and have kids, if you dont you should be killed
Perhaps he's just proud of the fact his child has decided to put zero effort into 'learning' about what is effectively superstitious nonsense with absolutely no relevance in the modern World.
That's quite a laughable point of view, when you consider the magnitude of impact that "superstitious nonsense" has had on the western world over the last 14 years, 4 months and 22 days
You may not BELIEVE in any religion, and you may not AGREE with any of their teachings, however only an idiot would try to claim that religion a) doesn't exist, and b) doesn't affect their life.
That's quite a laughable point of view, when you consider the magnitude of impact that "superstitious nonsense" has had on the western world over the last 14 years, 4 months and 22 days
and would better marks in a religious studies gcse exam have altered those events?
Not directly, no, but if everyone in the world had a bit more acceptance and tolerance of others' cultures and beliefs then maybe there wouldn't be such a high level of extremism.
Ignorance and bigotry is never something to be proud of, regardless of whether you agree with the subject you're ignorant of.
That's quite a laughable point of view, when you consider the magnitude of impact that "superstitious nonsense" has had on the western world over the last 14 years, 4 months and 22 days
And while children are still being indoctrinated with this superstitious nonsense the things that have happened will keep happening. My Sky Pixie is better than your Sky Pixie, agree and believe in my Sky Pixie or I will kill you.
Learning about religion is not the same as being indoctrinated
In the same way that sex education is not the same as sleeping with your teacher.
So the answer is to send RE teachers to the middle east to teach them tolerance.
So you're ashamed of your ignorance to the current top reality tv stars of such greats as, ex on the beach, big brother 10 trillion and five?
Learning about religion is not the same as being indoctrinated
but its a requirement to have religious Christian worship here.
not RE where its discussed as an education but sermons where they're told that its true.
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Personally having spent a fair bit of time in the Middle East, I'm glad I studied RE at school as it gave me a head start. Okay, I was in the advantageous position of spending a lot of my childhood in that part of the world, and you get your anecdotal edification - however, having a bit of structured learning about different cultures (where religion is a major part of it) is in my opinion priceless.
Though our school moved away from collective worship and assemblies were either agnostic/non religious, or you could choose to go to a Jewish/Muslim/Christian/Other religion assembly to suit your beliefs. I liked that, it meant I was able to go to Christian assemblies and be with people that wanted to be there rather than lots of resentful kids.
You don't have to accept or believe or anything like that, but knowing about it shows a bit less ignorance, and perhaps, just perhaps, help remove a little prejudice.
But it seems it is easier to have contempt (which is rather aggressive way to be IMO) for these things rather than accept them and have a vague amount of understanding about it.
However this is not the point of the OP, the point of the OP is that the rector does not seem to be performing to the level/standard that the parent (OP) is expecting and wants to have their child excluded from assemblies - I think it is a perfectly fair request.
Though our school moved away from collective worship and assemblies were either agnostic/non religious, or you could choose to go to a Jewish/Muslim/Christian/Other religion assembly to suit your beliefs. I liked that, it meant I was able to go to Christian assemblies and be with people that wanted to be there rather than lots of resentful kids.
You don't have to accept or believe or anything like that, but knowing about it shows a bit less ignorance, and perhaps, just perhaps, help remove a little prejudice.
But it seems it is easier to have contempt (which is rather aggressive way to be IMO) for these things rather than accept them and have a vague amount of understanding about it.
However this is not the point of the OP, the point of the OP is that the rector does not seem to be performing to the level/standard that the parent (OP) is expecting and wants to have their child excluded from assemblies - I think it is a perfectly fair request.
There is also a world of difference between being taught that there is a god, to being taught that some people believe in a god or some deities.
RE should be about the festivals and the beliefs that theists/deists hold. I also believe they should explore atheism and agnosticism.
RE should be about the festivals and the beliefs that theists/deists hold. I also believe they should explore atheism and agnosticism.
Yup, and that applies to ALL schools, regardless of religious association - daily Christian worship is mandatory. That's outside of any RE teaching.
I think only the most rabid of atheists would deny the use of some religious education, but the requirement to deliver Christian worship is a bit more difficult to swallow.
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My point exactly - and not just specific to RE.
To be a rounded person, you need to understand what other people think / believe and how that might affect the way they live / behave.
In principle, no different to understanding that some people are vegetarians because they disagree with killing animals, whilst not being subjected to "you are a barbarian because you eat animals"
Where is "here"?
Which is what I don't agree with.
Education about other people's beliefs and cultures (i.e. RE) = good
Indoctrination = bad.
However it seems many people have difficulty telling the difference.