New "fun" car time - looking for suggestions
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Faster at what, straight lines, tracks. Any old 20k car with a tonne of money thrown at the engine will go fast, but it does not make it a super car killer even if in a straight line it is quicker. There is so much more to a car than just straight line.
I've being in some stupidly quick cars that I'd never want to own, seriously compromised in other areas and that generally tends to be the problem with older highly tuned cars, they sacrifice areas and they also tend to cost an absolute fortune to run because things tend to break.
I'd far rather an EVO X with around 420BHP for 20k than a Supra for 20k, apart from a rolling race of 30-130mph the EVO will do everything else better and be a far nicer place to be.
Sometimes it is nice to have a soft AWD car on a UK wet cold broken up road, as such roads you can still enjoy an EVO and Scoob as long as its not on rock hard coilovers, if I tried to accelerate fast in a Supra, Mustang, M3 on such a road well it would be interesting, whilst the EVO dissappeared in the distance I'd be trying my best to keep pointing in the same direction whilst going at half the speed.
But hey you said faster than a Supra for under 20k, the answer is simple BMW M5 V10, modern, amazing engine and for 20k you might be able to get lucky and it even have BMW warranty.
The other option BMW M3 V8 DCT.
Both as fast if not faster than a 20k supra, but have so much more going for them.
Supercharged S2000 another option, supercharged E46 M3 there are so many options at 20k but I'd rather sacrifice some straight line ability for something more modern that is a complete package and not just a one trick wonder.
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I'd far rather an EVO X with around 420BHP for 20k than a Supra for 20k, apart from a rolling race of 30-130mph the EVO will do everything else better and be a far nicer place to be.
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it's funny you should say Evo X, i'm viewing two this week, one is a standard FQ330 and the other is a FQ300 but with 470HP
i drove an X about 3 months ago and i was shocked at how well it held the road, it was brilliant, i drove an Evo 5 on friday that had 550HP , it was REALLY FAST, that too held the road brilliantly, but i'm not 100% sure of its engine...........if it hadn't been thrashed too much, i certainly didn't hear anything or no smell of oil etc.
it made me laugh though, it pulled so damn hard and it felt safe too, it felt rock solid on the road..glued to it
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EVO X was the best road mannered car I have owned, any road, any surface, any weather absolutely insane grip and ability. They just have to be a manual and FQ-360/400 or a tuned FQ-300/330. The one with 470BHP would be on a different turbo which means more lag. I took mine as far as it would go on stock turbo safely which was 415BHP/400lb/ft to maintain drivability the stock car had which was superb. I drove an EVO 8 with 500BHP and in comparison it was nowhere near as nice to drive as the X with less power.
thanks, both of these are Auto 
but the 470hp one has the gearbox remapped, i hate Autos period, it kills the fun, but i suppose i can live with this.
the Evo 5 i saw is much more of a track car but probably a money pit, it had race harnesses, Corbeau Revenge seats etc..........very loud too, the owner had spent an absolute fortune on it.
if you're a petrol head you'd choose the Evo 5 easily, it's just such an animal but the X is a much safer buy
the rest of the Evo 5 is mint, it's just the engine and maybe i'm worrying over nothing, because this will be my 2nd car and only for fun
as you've said the best thing about the Evos is their insane grip, the Evo 5 is far safer to drive than my Honda, even under hard acceleration...... i find it very surprising that it's this good
but the 470hp one has the gearbox remapped, i hate Autos period, it kills the fun, but i suppose i can live with this.the Evo 5 i saw is much more of a track car but probably a money pit, it had race harnesses, Corbeau Revenge seats etc..........very loud too, the owner had spent an absolute fortune on it.
if you're a petrol head you'd choose the Evo 5 easily, it's just such an animal but the X is a much safer buy
the rest of the Evo 5 is mint, it's just the engine and maybe i'm worrying over nothing, because this will be my 2nd car and only for fun
as you've said the best thing about the Evos is their insane grip, the Evo 5 is far safer to drive than my Honda, even under hard acceleration...... i find it very surprising that it's this good
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thanks, both of these are Auto
the Evo 5 i saw is much more of a track car but probably a money pit, it had race harnesses, Corbeau Revenge seats etc..........very loud too, the owner had spent an absolute fortune on it.
if you're a petrol head you'd choose the Evo 5 easily, it's just such an animal but the X is a much safer buy
the rest of the Evo 5 is mint, it's just the engine and maybe i'm worrying over nothing, because this will be my 2nd car and only for fun
I'm a petrol head but I'd take the X everytime, it is the best road car Mitsubishi built full stop, yes the EVO 9 was a little more hardcore but the X is not a one trick car, it does everything very well and the damper/spring setup is absolutely spot on for UK roads, they absolutely nailed it with the X, whereas the previous generations were either too firm or too laggy and peaky. I like a car that has all around use ability, the X has that and for an EVO aint a bad place to sit though the seats do fall to bits.
i dont have your knowledge i'm afraid but the Evo 5 deffo felt firm, but not as bad as the old RS 2000 Escort, does it have lag ???? YES it wont accelerate much if you twitch the throttle, you have to really floor it first, which makes it very safe around here
as for the Evo X with 470HP
well that'll probably be great fun too, but it doesn't have all the mods that the 5 has
as for the Evo X with 470HP
well that'll probably be great fun too, but it doesn't have all the mods that the 5 hasNO, NOT AT ALL. (it's the same Evo as well, it's up for sale again, i viewed it last friday)..... here's a quick photo i took
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I have no doubt that the TT-RS will be numb in comparison to the others. How numb is the question that will need some answering.
You have to remember I came from a very short geared 400bhp STi where there was just so much involvement in keeping up with the gear changes
Who knows, the TT-RS might well be the one for me. Reality is that it's steering and very understeery nature will put me off.
Other options that I haven't considered are cars that have had some money spent on mods already. However, a feel for the standard car is required before I even begin to think about modified versions.
But this is what test drives are for. I'm in no rush to buy anything. The longer it takes, the more I have to spend.
I've had my TTRS for nearly a year now, With a good fast road alignment set up under steer is not much of an issue, it has cough me out once when I was being very naughty lol. As far as speed and handling its pretty good I spent a lot of time in Wales driving around the twisty road and as far as burst of acceleration it pulls very well and really pins you back in your seat.
Mines stock at the moment at 340hp but its going to MRC next month for a full stage 2+ build
The only really bad parts are the costs it drinks fuel, OEM and after market parts are very expensive, Induction kit is £700, full exhaust systems are £2500+, intercooler is £900+, spark plugs are £30 each lol
Also hard finding one that isnt a nail, it took me 6 months to find mine and personally I would only buy one from an Audi dealer, a friend had her DSG box fail with only 14k miles on the car it was replaced under Audi warranty the DSG box alone was £8k
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Brakes are pretty rubbish as well and will need to be upgraded for track use or they will warp within a few laps
Gearbox synchro are easily broken if you flat shift and abuse the box
Drive train is remarkable strong with a 1000hp and a few 850hp cars in the US running stock gear boxes, diffs, drive shafts ect
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NO, NOT AT ALL. (it's the same Evo as well, it's up for sale again, i viewed it last friday)..... here's a quick photo i took
Though it looks very clean I do not like the styling of the 5, just looks like it crashed into the Halfords Ripspeed section of whatever it used to be called sorry. If its under 10k then not bad but I suspect as 15-20k is being discussed its a lot more and for that kind of money you could buy a X which will be the better road car and a much nicer place to sit with a lot more toys.
Oh and they look much better, aggressive still but also grown up.
that Evo X looks exactly like the one i'm viewing, it's the 470HP Version in white, it looks brilliant..it's for sale at 20 grand.
the X is a modern version of the 5 and 6, it's styling is cleaner and sharper........ the Evo X is a far safer buy, it also has loads more spare parts on Ebay.
this Evo X still has 6 months warranty left on its engine rebuild, it also has an aftermarket exhaust and intake
the X is a modern version of the 5 and 6, it's styling is cleaner and sharper........ the Evo X is a far safer buy, it also has loads more spare parts on Ebay.
this Evo X still has 6 months warranty left on its engine rebuild, it also has an aftermarket exhaust and intake
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They did not do a 470BHP versio, FQ-440 was the fastest car they did and those are 40-50k as there is only a handful. FQ-360/400 are far better value!
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Them black lights are hideous!
I do love a white Evo X, one lives near me and my god it's quick.. Leaves my little golf behind like it's a Nissan Micra
I do love a white Evo X, one lives near me and my god it's quick.. Leaves my little golf behind like it's a Nissan Micra
Them black lights are hideous!
I do love a white Evo X, one lives near me and my god it's quick.. Leaves my little golf behind like it's a Nissan Micra
the standard ones are about £130 on Ebay, because i hate them too
``B.C coil overs with indigo fast road setup`` not that this means much to me, but i'll soon find out, i drove the FQ 300 and that was pretty quick, but this will be miles faster.......... it's an extra 170HP
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Have you ever driven one?
Any number of factors can cause a dsg gearbox to fail. Same way a manual can fail. Trick is buy a car which still has a warranty or you can extend the warranty for peace of mind. Then if it breaks, you're not paying the bill.
the standard ones are about £130 on Ebay, because i hate them too
``B.C coil overs with indigo fast road setup`` not that this means much to me, but i'll soon find out, i drove the FQ 300 and that was pretty quick, but this will be miles faster.......... it's an extra 170HP
Its a nice car but do they have the stock lights and stock suspension?
BC coilovers what is wrong with some people fitting Chinese crappy coilovers, bloody aweful on a road car, fine track only but cheap Chinese coilovers which BC are are not good at all, so ask for the stock suspension and re-fit stock lights.
I suspect they changed the turbo as well as 470BHP will destroy the stock turbo so its going to be running a larger unit, no doubt a red, good for power, but not so great for drive ability, more lag and spools later.
If I were you I'd try to find a nice stock example or one which has not had all the parts that make the X great ripped out of it.
