Caught on CCTV: Moment woman attacks member of the public

[thep02]

I love how the DM have the picture of the attacker all looking woeful with her business partner, yet totally negate the fact she is the thug who swung for him first.

She got schooled, now she's gone to the papers and crying over the fact.

Tbh because of her and the thugs movements before she missed punching him it looks like thug might have got physical or boisterous inside away from the camera, making her swing more understandable, I bet her partner feels totally emasculated.

Re reflex punch it's like when battered women tell me their bf can't control his temper I always say funny he never reflex punches me or loses his temper and attacks me when I call him a wife beating ****

 

[Surfer]

You don't know anything about him other than what's in the video - unless you have extra evidence to offer?

All you actually know is he parked somewhere, someone else didn't like it and ended up physically attacking him as he was about to leave, for which he retaliates and gets the hell out of there. That's all we know from the video.

Why is it that you think the 'elderly gentleman' is law abiding?

Because i until i see proof positive of crime i assume a person is law abiding. Like i assume you are law abiding because i have no knowledge of crimes you may have committed.

No we know the chav parked straight in front of the 2 elderly folks business that is why they are up in arms about it (and justifiably so). That is in contravention of the Road Traffic Act and Highway Code (its in there somewhere ).

They trespass onto someone else's proprety so immediately we KNOW they are the aggressors. Its clear.

How could have been saying anything and the reflection in the car sees the gent. of which you speak moving towards the driver, not the other way around.

Sorry what?

The woman was certainly not law abiding. We know she tried to physically abuse someone. She got back what she'd tried to dish out, a punch in the chops. Unfortunately for her she picked on the wrong bloke.

The woman is lashing out and standing up for herself and her business partner and their rights. She shouldn't have attempted to attack the chav of course but his violence and aggression towards them both is waaaaay ott.
Unfortunately we cannot hear any sound of the exchange but it doesn't take a vivd imagination to imagine how it went.

Two elderly folk minding their own business trying to run a business but make the mistake of standing up for themselves against pure scum when they drove their car onto their property

Its like someone in a wheelchair attempts to hit you but fails miserably and you decide to throw them off their chair breaking multiple bones. You think thats a justifiable response from a reasonable thinking law abiding person? No of course not.

He is absolute scum.

 

[Rroff]

Tbh because of her and the thugs movements before she missed punching him it looks like thug might have got physical or boisterous inside away from the camera, making her swing more understandable, I bet her partner feels totally emasculated.

Re reflex punch it's like when battered women tell me their bf can't control his temper I always say funny he never reflex punches me or loses his temper and attacks me when I call him a wife beating ****

If you watch the video in slow motion and zoomed in it doesn't look like the thug/chav is the one who made actual physical motions - he appears to get in the older guy's face a bit but its the older guy who is flailing his arms around in the reflection and poking out into camera view briefly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFzRrh2mv5s

 

[Surfer]

Blatant chav scum - but why the couple decided to pick a fight is beyond me.

Yes i agree. I think they mustve had a lot of people doing the same - ie parking right in front of their business. If i were them i would implement something like this.

First a sign clearly warning of no parking etc and then smt like this which importantly can be activated by remote control

 

[Efour]

Their premises are right next to a Tesco Express/cash point They probably get this crap non stop 24h a day so they have short fuses.

 

[Surfer]

He exhibited no aggressive behaviour up until he moved to the front of the car, even then he only seemed to be matching the attitude those 2 had been giving off from the very start of the video.

Driving your car recklessly right up to the front of someones front door a couple of inches away is aggressive. Trespassing on private property.

 

[Gilly]

Driving your car recklessly right up to the front of someones front door a couple of inches away is aggressive. Trespassing on private property.

What was reckless about it? Can you see him putting anyone in danger with his driving?

How can you see how far away from the front of the building he is? Bear in mind that there is enough room at the front of the car for the older guy to attack the driver...

 

[Mynight]

Re reflex punch it's like when battered women tell me their bf can't control his temper I always say funny he never reflex punches me or loses his temper and attacks me when I call him a wife beating ****

Because thats not a reflex...

Dont call him one just report the pleb. Or meet him in a dark ally.

 

[Rroff]

Driving your car recklessly right up to the front of someones front door a couple of inches away is aggressive. Trespassing on private property.

We had someone do something similar - albeit they blocked in a delivery van which is probably why it got such prompt action - and the police dealt with it very decisively heh.

 

[TheVoice]

How can you define it as any provocation?

More accurately, his reaction to physical abuse is to defend himself.

A court is never going to view that as self-defence, it simply wasn't proportionate.

You can see from his body language that he escalated it, and even after he punches her he appears to be goading the other man whom he's already had one physical altercation with before getting back into his car.

Any reasonable human being would've said "Oh sorry, I'll just move my car then" in the first place.

 

[Surfer]

I'm saying their behaviour was aggressive (which includs their car driving which is also evidenced by them knocking the cone over and driving away with the elderly chap still hanging onto the door)

They initiated this whole thing. If they had parked legally somewhere else this whole event would not have happened.

Any reasonable human being would've said "Oh sorry, I'll just move my car then" in the first place

Indeed, but sadly we are dealing with a different species here that knows only aggression and violence to get its way.

 

[Gilly]

A court is never going to view that as self-defence, it simply wasn't proportionate.

Perhaps it wasn't proportionate, but it was a response to being attacked. You do him, you must do her. All evidence points to her taking it to the physical level first - unless her old man did off-camera.

You can see from his body language that he escalated it, and even after he punches her he appears to be goading the other man before getting into his car.

In what respect? He's on his way back to his car in less than a minute...

Any reasonable human being would've said "Oh sorry, I'll just move my car then" in the first place.

Without audio you don't know he didn't say that, you also don't know the old couple weren't being racially abusive. We can all create conjecture on the verbals exchanged

I'm saying their behaviour was aggressive (which includs their car driving which is also evidenced by them knocking the cone over and driving away with the elderly chap still hanging onto the door)

They initiated this whole thing. If they had parked legally somewhere else this whole event would not have happened.

Turn it around. It's two men being the aggressors and a woman that's parked up. The woman is then hit by one of the blokes, retaliates and drops one of them, the other bloke comes over to the car, the woman makes her escape by driving away, over the cone as she goes with the second aggressor hanging onto her door.

All I've changed is the gender. Do you see the woman being aggressive by making her getaway in that manner?

 

[SkodaMart]

She shouldn't of touched him, never mind hit him.

 

[Rroff]

Perhaps it wasn't proportionate, but it was a response to being attacked. You do him, you must do her. All evidence points to her taking it to the physical level first - unless her old man did off-camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFzRrh2mv5s

Obviously not clear but it looks like the chav gets up in the guys face then turns around to walk away at which point the older guy appears as if he is going for the chav and the chav's friend appears to be reacting to that and goes as it to help his friend - not as part of the two of them piling on the old guy.

 

[Surfer]

What was reckless about it? Can you see him putting anyone in danger with his driving?

He didnt indicate when he parked up.
His speed was too fast
He drove over a cone
He almost drove over the elderly chap
He drove off with his passenger door open.
He didnt indicate when he was driving off.

So yeah reckless A danger to everyone around him.

I would have loved to have seen the chavs faces if when they tried to drive off bollards suddenly rose up haha.

 

[Swifty55]

The guy didn't retaliate when the woman was pushing him in the back, he only retaliated when she tried hitting him...

 

[Malevolence]

They want equal rights, then they should expect equal lefts too.

 

[Surfer]

She shouldn't of touched him, never mind hit him.

yeah epic fail there on her part. But what else can she do, she feels helpless. They probably have hundreds of cars every day all driving onto their property. They should have put something in place to stop it. I would have put hidden bollards and a sign

 

[Raumarik]

He didnt indicate when he parked up.
His speed was too fast
He drove over a cone
He almost drove over the elderly chap
He drove off with his passenger door open.
He didnt indicate when he was driving off.

So yeah reckless A danger to everyone around him.

I would have loved to have seen the chavs faces if when they tried to drive off bollards suddenly rose up haha.

Devil's advocate (or rather chavocate) but could easily claim he was being pressured by the guy trying to get in the car and "in fear of his life" as has been claimed in several other cases where people were actually harmed.

Bottom line is that the chav was trying to leave when he was attacked, what happened outside of the CCTV we don't know but going on evidence alone he's not "more" at fault than any other party, the lot of them acted like muppets.

 

[No1newts]

He done nothing wrong. Her sex should not matter with this whole equal rights we get rammed down our throat. She took a swing, he reacted, end of. Teach the dumb thug cow a lesson and she won't do it in future.