Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 452 45.0%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 553 55.0%
  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .
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scorza said:
Do we have a deal with South Korea? or does the EU have a deal and how does it benefit the British economy?

See above point about current politicians. Do you not think the fact that he said this at a meeting with David Cameron is significant?
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Yes, scorza, we are getting what we want out of SK, and the deal is less sneaky than the US equivalent.

I also prefer my politicians a bit less ossified and a bit more engaged with current affairs, yeah.

Admiral Huddy said:
I'm still very much undecided. I like the idea of being in a competitive market but since we've lost most of our manufacturing output, i'm concerned about the cost importing and what this will do for the economy long term. I like the idea of tighter border control but then again, this has an impact on import/export cost, travel and transport. I just don't think we are strong enough on our own.. We just aren't competitive enough.

Personally, I don't think there should be a referendum. We have a paid parliament that we put trust into to raise all the necessary debates (for and against) to come up with the best solution. I think too many people will vote for the wrong reasons and lack of understanding. Just an opinion.
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Well, the prevailing parliamentary reasoning post-2008 was 'now's not the time'. We aren't riding on a surplus. Our chancellor is mucking up budgets and has to fight them out. The price for hedging against a big pound drop is surging. We have the Syrian civil war to worry about, Russia in a rather edgy state, our fight for greater liberalisation of service markets on the continent is under threat. A round of elections is on the way. Basically, the sooner this over, the better.
 
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Admiral Huddy said:
Personally, I don't think there should be a referendum. We have a paid parliament that we put trust into to raise all the necessary debates (for and against) to come up with the best solution. I think too many people will vote for the wrong reasons and lack of understanding. Just an opinion.
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Ideally, we would be able to trust our own government to make the right choices for the country. But they're so dreadfully out of touch with real life and bothered about helping themselves and the people that bankroll them that a lot of people (me included) can't bring them to do that anymore.

I wonder, for example, how many people are going to vote to Leave based on the fact that the government wants to Remain?
 
Tute said:
I wonder, for example, how many people are going to vote to Leave based on the fact that the government wants to Remain?
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If Dodgy Dave says stay, that's enough for me to want to leave, I dont have all of the facts, and as shortsighted as that sounds my choice is based solely on that, its not the Government as such as there are "Leave" members in the Tory party as well..

But as he has proven time and time again, even before this Panama Papers thing, he is so far out of touch its not even funny, he is killing this country bit by bit, be it pensions, cuts to the NHS/Police/Fire etc, which IMHO is a simple ploy to get them all on the verge of collapse so they can be privatized so his "friends" (who incidentally donate to the Tory Party) can benefit and in turn give him a nice cushy job or "brown envelope" when he is no longer PM.

Remember though guys, we are in this together...
 
Trig said:
If Dodgy Dave says stay, that's enough for me to want to leave, I dont have all of the facts, and as shortsighted as that sounds my choice is based solely on that, its not the Government as such as there are "Leave" members in the Tory party as well..
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So to spite David Cameron, you're going to vote to... hand him more power? :confused:
 
The irony is even though the people who dislike DC will still be 'in it together' whichever way the populace votes, we vote either leave or remain and were all in it no matter what happens, its not like the losing side disappears overnight.

I'm still on the fence as I haven't had a decent for or against argument presented other than nonsense Facebook posts or incorrect bickering on here, apologies to the informative posters, it gets lost in the nonsense sometimes.
 
Tunney said:
So to spite David Cameron, you're going to vote to... hand him more power? :confused:
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I can't see Cameron being in power for much longer, if he gets replaced by someone else or the Tories lose out completely.

From what I have seen there is a lot of "this could happen" rather than actual facts, as with everything in Politics, its a lot of smoke/mirrors/BS to get the populace to do what you want them to do...
 
Tosno said:
He wont enjoy that more power for long after :o
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No it's looking increasingly like Osborne will. Do you really want that?

Trig said:
From what I have seen there is a lot of "this could happen" rather than actual facts, as with everything in Politics, its a lot of smoke/mirrors/BS to get the populace to do what you want them to do...
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Well thats because no one knows do they? All you can really say against leaving is that the future is uncertain, but this immediately gets written off as scaremongering. Statistics are of course manipulated by both sides to prove their point, but no one knows what will happen post an exit, hence it is uncertain. Could Britain survive? Of course if can! Will it do well? Very probably! Do we know exactly how things will pan out? No we don't!

Note this holds true for both an EU-exit and remaining!
 
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I don't think Osborne would win a leadership election if the EU vote was out. He has tied his colours firmly with Cameron and would be harmed by any failure. I also think the wheels are beginning to come off Osborne's financial plan. IDS resigning may have looked like an outlier but it probably points to more fundemental divisions and weaknesses in the Coalition then Conservative Governments stratgey. He has been central to the Cameron plan for over 10 years and the shine is coming off, I think other candidates will be more able to harness a broad base of Conservative support.

Vote Leave and get one PM and one Chancellor free :-D
 
Trig said:
I can't see Cameron being in power for much longer, if he gets replaced by someone else or the Tories lose out completely.
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It's all a big set-up for Boris.

From what I have seen there is a lot of "this could happen" rather than actual facts, as with everything in Politics, its a lot of smoke/mirrors/BS to get the populace to do what you want them to do...
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This is what worries me because this isn't just about the here and now, it effect my children and their children so on. It's a lot bigger than politics..

scorza said:
The decision the country makes on June 23rd will determine this nation's fate a for a lot longer than David Cameron will be PM.
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Very much
 
Still undecided as I've yet to find unbiased facts.

My heart wants me to stay as I'm a firm believer that one day, borders won't exist and nationalism will disappear and we will finally realise that we are all part of the planet Earth and having allegiance to a bit of land is a complete nonsense.

However, I know that this is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY (x1000) off and for the time being, nationalism is here to stay so I'm tempted to vote to leave the EU.

I think on the day, it will be a battle between my mind and my heart and I really don't know who will win.
 
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