Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)
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Sure we could stay in and have a say - and then get ignored as usual. The will of the UK doesn't seem to make any difference at all to the implementation of the European project. If we stay in we could be forced to adopt the Euro.
That made me chuckle this morning, because (generally) the more right wing, conservative Brexiteers, will be the ones who have been praising George for being such a good chancellor.
The more left wing, Remainians, will have been the ones criticising George for being a woeful chancellor.
So is there anyone who is going to believe him?
Probably just made up like his budgets.
The report hasn't been released yet but the sounds like it assumes that the UK won't stay in the EEA. Under that kind of circumstance, I wouldn't be surprised if the UK economy shrunk by 6%.
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This is just the start of PROJECT FEAR ramping up the scaremongering, this will be followed by several countries & world leaders telling us we must stay in the EU.
I firmly believe if Britain "the 5th largest economy in the world" leaves the EU, not only will it leave a big gaping hole in europe's finances. Other countries will follow when they see just how well Britain can go it alone.
The truth is world leaders are scared if we vote leave and will say or do anything to maintain the status quo keeping the masses dumbed down with fear around leaving. This is being played out in the media now as will get progressively worse as the days and weeks countdown to d-day.
This is what sways the issue for me.... Tata Steel lets say "IF" the government wanted to help this company & its workers it would be prevented from doing so by EU rules. "The ability of any UK government to provide state aid would be restricted by & stopped by Europe. "Surely this if nothing else shows you just how powerless our own elected government has become under the jack boot of Europe". Its not right and need changing! - Time to grasp the nettle and take back control.
EU state aid rules prevent the government from helping out the nation's steel companies or any company that might need help safeguarding jobs — EU law strictly prevents parliament from bailing out companies.
Time to VOTE leave I think.
I agree with what Parabellum says, this is only the beginning of 'project fear' and will only get worse closer to the vote, think back to the Scottish vote to see what we are in store for.
It's not just about us, the EU will have a massive hole in it's budgets if we leave and they cannot afford that.
It's not just about us, the EU will have a massive hole in it's budgets if we leave and they cannot afford that.
Not with Obournes two record for financial predictions. Is be more inclined to believe the minister for tea and biscuits.
It would take so long to actually leave that you would never see those kind of effects. It isn't a cut-off, it gives a lot of time to sort out new trade opportunities and leverage out of eu trade far more. We can get rid of the ridiculous 10% tax on out of EU goods for a start. We would all be much better off out.
Lol at the continual usage of Project Fear
Are any of you scared yet? No?
Then it's either not doing a very good job, so you don't have anything to worry about or a crap buzz word you have all latched on to (like the sheeple you are)
Are any of you scared yet? No?
Then it's either not doing a very good job, so you don't have anything to worry about or a crap buzz word you have all latched on to (like the sheeple you are
)State aid isn't completely prohibited under EU laws. There's a number of exemptions that would allow the government to help in the case of the Tata Steel plants. You only have to look at what happened with the bank bailouts to see that.
Whether our government has the will to do is debateable though.
Lol at the continual usage of Project Fear
Are any of you scared yet? No?
Then it's either not doing a very good job, so you don't have anything to worry about or a crap buzz word you have all latched on to (like the sheeple you are
Meh, it's just a handy term to use for the spin that comes out from the Government.
Which, by voting against the EU proposal for punative tariffs on Chinese steel, shows our Govt hasn't got the will to stand up to China, just the opposite, we are sucking up to them for all we are worth.
But no, it's the "big bad EU that stops us and we would look after our own national interests" rubbish that gets spouted
poppycock
No doubt his estimate is wrong but do you want to bet which way? He always seems to think he's gonna have more money rather than less so based on that chances are it will be more than £4300.
Or maybe it's time to use your head and consider that these warnings are not the result of a conspiracy that involves almost everyone on the damn planet, from the US to China.
Also used by Brexit when they have nothing to counter or nothing constructive to say. It's term that has been overused and should be binned.
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The Global financial melt down & banking collapse of 2008 is not is not comparable with Tata steel. The near collapse of the financial system in 2008 represented an existential threat to the still nascent effort to integrate financial markets. Governments across Europe found themselves compelled by circumstance to bail-out domestic banks. In this case the European Commission "facilitated" the bail outs... the story is well known.
Under EU law the European Commission has the authority to prohibit state aid "IF" a government wanted to help!
We don't need a european commission telling us how to govern! and weather or not a government step in to save thousands of jobs.
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