So after they have settled down in the country of residence for 10 years, gained nationality, learnt to speak German/French/Dutch whatever, got work, made connections....why do you think at that point they would all up sticks and come to the UK?
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So after they have settled down in the country of residence for 10 years, gained nationality, learnt to speak German/French/Dutch whatever, got work, made connections....why do you think at that point they would all up sticks and come to the UK?
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So they will be able to come here?
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Obviously some of them may get German citizenship. But lets look at the requirements - they must be settled and economically active for 5 years. They must speak the language properly.
So answer me this - why would a Syrian refugee who has lived in Germany for 10 years, speaks German fluently and contributes to society suddenly decide to move to the UK? And if they did, would we mind anyway?
The vast majority of them won't secure citizenship and won't be able to meet these criteria. Of those that do, the vast majority will remain in Germany. Why wouldn't they? They'll live there, have jobs or businesses and speak the local language. What possible value would uprooting and running to the UK give them?
There are already vast amounts of people from, say, North Africa who are French citizens by doing what you say - gaining nationality after a set period of time.
Why are they not all coming here? Perhaps because they have more in common with France than they do the UK and therefore there is little point for them to come here?
You misunderstand me.
Scorza: There are more non-EU migrants than EU, why don't we stop that?
Government: Well we can't stop EU migration
Scorza: Rabbldrabbblerabble EU
Why allow that to happen? Stopping non EU migrants is both easier, and had a bigger impact. So why concentrate on the EU?
After they become EU citizens of course, but as stated already, that acceptance rate is low and after that time what would be their motivation?
Apart from your paranoia of course.
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So when you said:[TW]Fox;29407826 said:
You actually meant that you personally don't recken it'll happen?[TW]Fox;29407752 said:
When will remainers understand that their speculation doesn't suddenly become fact.
Just.. lol?
Are you not doing EXACTLY the same thing? You are speculating that we'll end up with hoards of fluent German speaking ex-Syrian refugees in the UK, after all?!
I notice - unsurprisingly - you've addressed none of the points Freakbro and I have raised.
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Way to misquote Fox there Skunk...
He was answering Chris lol Wilson regarding 'illegal' immigrants....they aren't the refugees and as such are irrelevant to the EU debate, as being illegal, they move where and when they want to under the official radar anyway
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FFS!! If the only things that bother other outers are immigration, benefits and supposedly over stringent human rights I'm going straight back to voting in, it's all a bit disgusting this small minded provincial twaddle when the fate of our nation and possibly humanity hangs in our hands.
Please clarify - are you saying that all of the non EU migration into the UK last year was of highly skilled people only?
But immigration is a genuine concern, not for the reasons that many think though.
This thread is like Groundhog Day isn't it....
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A lot of us do not believe for one moment they will find work, usefully integrate, "settle down" or learn to be any more than passable in their hosts language. I foresee them ostracising their hosts, or worse, living in ghettos amid their own, continuing the crime that is endemic in many of their lifestyles, and possibly becoming radicalised and turning against their benefactors. It's a well trodden path and I see no reason anything will be changed with far greater numbers of them in Europe. I see it being far worse, in fact, far far worse.
They will be nomadic, going wherever they see the greatest gains, out of work, out of favour and probably the UK will be worth a punt. We can see already how the EU have worked together to help out the situation. They have erected fences, fought the invaders and started diplomatic mumblings about who should do what. I would expect this split to deepen, and being out of the EU one less burden in these changing times.
Your rosy picture of adaptation and "settling down" sounds fantasy in fact.
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Err...that is the condition of them getting EU citizenship.....so, it was only in answer to your assertion they would all come here and pointing out they have to pass the criteria first.
So fine, let's take your vision of the future, they don't integrate, don't work (become economically active), don't learn the language.....then they don't become EU citizens...great! They can't come over here then, legally. Win win!
So what are you worried about?
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