What does this road sign mean.....

[daver]

Honestly I think we give people too much credit sometimes.

There's a section of road I travel on daily to work heading out of Manchester, it goes 40>50>Motorway in the space of about a mile. The amount of times you get someone up your arse in the 40/50 zone when you are overtaking people doing low 40/50s and then you pull over to let them past but when you get to the motorway they still do 50/60.

A lot of people just don't have a ******* clue about their surroundings.

 

[estebanrey]

I do think perhaps we should look into the scandinavian way of teaching driving, a lot of folk could benefit with knowing what happens when you push a car beyond its limits, it'd give more confidence to nervous drivers and perhaps better still a bit of perspective to overconfident drivers who might otherwise wind up wrapped round a tree.

Sounds like a good idea, I'd love to see the stats for how many accidents professional motor sports drivers have on average when driving their normal car on the road compared to the general population. I would bet good money on it being lower.

 

[ElliorR]

I thought this thread might go that down that road......so might as well

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Yes, but at what speed?

 

[Disco_P]

The road I live on is mostly NSL.

And if you want to drive at 60mph go ahead. But you will crash and you might die. There is certainly not going to be anyone around to call and ambulance.

I even made some pictures for all the places where you'll be making friends with the wall.

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

If you're Mad Max, then road signs need not apply

 

[estebanrey]

There's a section of road I travel on daily to work heading out of Manchester, it goes 40>50>Motorway in the space of about a mile. The amount of times you get someone up your arse in the 40/50 zone when you are overtaking people doing low 40/50s and then you pull over to let them past but when you get to the motorway they still do 50/60.

I've got a mate who drives a big van at 40 mph everywhere. He'll go from holding up a queue of cars in a 60 zone to making you hold tightly onto the dash board and close your eyes in a cul-de-sac.

He jokes that it's because 40 is the speed at which he gets optimal petrol consumption.....but then he is a tight bugger so it's probably the actual reason.

 

[FoxEye]

The road I live on is mostly NSL.

And if you want to drive at 60mph go ahead. But you will crash and you might die. There is certainly not going to be anyone around to call and ambulance.

I even made some pictures for all the places where you'll be making friends with the wall.

Spoiler

Take that road, halve the width, and put 7 foot high hedges on both sides.

Then you've got a lot of country roads where I live You're mad if you do more than 20 in many places.

When you get to a road like the one you've pictured it's like getting onto a motorway

 

[something daft already!!]

It means beware of forward slashes.

 

[estebanrey]

The road I live on is mostly NSL.

And if you want to drive at 60mph go ahead. But you will crash and you might die. There is certainly not going to be anyone around to call and ambulance.

If you gave me a Sat Nav, I'd go 60+ down there...



...not because I'd use it to gauge the bends and see where the straights are; but because it would have an 'expected arrival time' and I can't resist reading that as 'time to beat'

 

[kindai]

It means mash the accelerator into the floor and hold on

 

[fendi]

i thought 50 which means i'd be going around 40

not in any real rush to get somewhere.

 

[adolf hamster]

Sounds like a good idea, I'd love to see the stats for how many accidents professional motor sports drivers have on average when driving their normal car on the road compared to the general population. I would bet good money on it being lower.

Iirc didnt lewis hamilton write off his mclaren or somesuch not too long ago?

I suppose thats an example of too much confidence, but doesnt make it any less valid, i wish someone had gone through the motions of teaching me proper brake control when i learnt to drive as not long after passing had a car with no abs, and a few sheep-related close calls that would have been helped by some experience with what happens when you lock up the wheels and that the panic reflex of stomp on the brake pedal isnt always appropriate.

Some ice driving courses would be handy too, i learned to drive during a very harsh winter so learnt the hard way but had a mate nearly write off his car recently because he didnt realise that 40mph on a completely snow covered country road is not a good idea, and i've seen far too many cases of what happens when black ice strikes.

 

[EdGey]

Country roads vary wildly, some have no business being NSL

Those are the best ones

 

[Werewolf]

The road I live on is mostly NSL.

And if you want to drive at 60mph go ahead. But you will crash and you might die. There is certainly not going to be anyone around to call and ambulance.

I even made some pictures for all the places where you'll be making friends with the wall.

X marks the spot?

 

[BuffetSlayer]

Right....but it still means 60 if you are driving a car with no trailers (IE just the car) down a single carriage country road regardless if the road doesn't seem like it should be NSL.

Honestly the amount of nit picking is hilarious

I recently attended a speed awareness course and was told that even on a country lane / less built up area - if there are lamp posts the limit is 30 unless otherwise stated with repeater signs.

I have been taking more notice of this particular rule and it's interesting how many times this technically applies where I would normally view the road as NSL.

But yeah in the main if I see that sign it's up to 60 depending on conditions.

 

[Akmeeda]

Here's one I took in Scotland .

 

[lsg1r]

I don't think so. If someone doesn't know the roads or is lost, or doesn't trust their car to perform as you approach the speed limit then why push it? It is a limit after all and not a target. Doing 40 on a NSL road Doesn't bother me as there will be an opportunity to overtake in due course.. What does bother me is the continuing of 40 once they have left the NSL zone.

Obviously there are roads where doing 60 isn't really suitable (just look at those images earlier) but we're discussing roads which are suitable for travelling at 60mph and people don't actually do 60mph on them.

As to being lost... I disagree on that one, especially with sat nav, if you are that lost that you need to slow down then it might actually be better to pull off somewhere because you're going to be focusing on everything but where you're driving and could end up causing accidents. I had someone hit my car on a large roundabout because they were too focused on finding where they were going and ended up needing to cut across 4 well signed lanes and side swiped me in the process because they didn't look at what was along side them.

Disagree entirely that they shouldn't be on the road. There are plenty of reasons why someone might not be doing 60. If I'm in an unfamiliar area down back roads then I certainly won't be doing 60 for the most part.

As said above we're not really on about back roads, we both know what back roads are like in Norfolk, they're often just bigger than a car with overgrown plants either side. Nobody in their right minds would try doing them at 60mph.... some do try though

 

[adolf hamster]

Here's one I took in Scotland .

Thats 20mph, unless you have a scooby, then that sign is plainly a challenge

 

[jon86]

As others have said, the NSL is a limit, not a target. The number of people who see it as a target boggle my mind. It's as though people have forgotten the highway code... or maybe they didn't know it in the first place. I bet that most of those people are BMW, Nissan (350Z etc) and Audi drivers...

 

[WithMyApologies]

As others have said, the NSL is a limit, not a target. The number of people who see it as a target boggle my mind. It's as though people have forgotten the highway code... or maybe they didn't know it in the first place. I bet that most of those people are BMW, Nissan (350Z etc) and Audi drivers...

Just like 30 is the limit in the relevant zone. But those drivers doing 40 in the NSL zone as described by the OP, will happily do 40 in a 30. Where's the sense in that?

There's a 40mph limit just before I hit the A1 on the way home from work, the amount of people who toddle along just managing to reach 30mph before then blasting away at over 70mph on the A1 is unreal.

It seems to work both ways, and I can only conclude that these people are weird, and dangerous.