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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0
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NVM.
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They are mutually independent.
I distinctly recall Charlie claiming NVidia were 6 months behind AMD, so that was my point there and a bit tongue in cheek but the point still stands, regardless of dates/times and it would have done AMD the world of good to release a Titan X/Fury X beating GPU first.
I think he was poking fun at the couple of people that were basically insisting without question that Nvidia were way behind AMD with the new process and thus their new GPU's.
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No, its only relevant in the context of whether mid to late June or July or August comes several months before late may. Which it clearly doesnt.
Agreed. It does seem he took this opportunity to get the AMD fans fired up again, much like other posts from him, meant to incite unrest and drama.
At this point he's pretty much quoting flooper, and taking his opinion for the opinion of all AMD supporters on this forum, which is obviously just done for the lolz.
Spot on and just a bit of banter before I went to work. I have said for the longest time that I want to see AMD going toe to toe with NVidia, as it is us, the end users who benefit. Owning a ROG Swift makes me lean towards NVidia but I wouldn't mind a 3440x1440 monitor to game on, so I am not tied to a particular brand.
Fingers crossed that AMD have something up their sleeves and it gives NVidia a fair run for the money.
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Give over Dave lol.
Been away for a week, so correct if I'm not fully caught up, but NV are only expected to paper launch GP104? Also you have to wonder why it was not shown at GTC. Nobody would have complained to get the announcement and availability in, say, August. Everyone would just say "finally, now we know" and put money aside. It's only a few months and perfectly normal to announce/unveil ahead of time.
As regards Polaris, I doubt it will be a worthwhile upgrade for most here so whether it's delayed or not is pretty moot.
As regards Polaris, I doubt it will be a worthwhile upgrade for most here so whether it's delayed or not is pretty moot.
The only way I can see Nvidia being that far behind is if they are launching with a big chip and have problems (which TMSC has a reputation for). AMD will come out first with mainstream Polaris parts that are simpler to make and are underwhelming because they are not faster than what we have now, then Nvidia will come out with a big chip and steal the top end limelight for halo marketing, then a few months later AMD will bring out Vega, but by then everyone will still think Nvidia is on top regardless.
And for god's sake AMD, get the cooler right this time. If your partners can do it, so can you, and none of this watercooling nonsense except for the crazy, overpriced top-end vanity part.
And for god's sake AMD, get the cooler right this time. If your partners can do it, so can you, and none of this watercooling nonsense except for the crazy, overpriced top-end vanity part.
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We all remember him saying that, also what we remember is another of his articles later this year where he was talking about delay. Also we all remember AMD being confident they will be ahead of nvidia for release. So there is absolutely NO need to poke fun of people who were just echoing their statements. Besides, don't be so cocky about your ideas. After all it is only reveal of consumer parts, not the launch. You never know what they will say about availability. Would be hilarious if they said that consumer availability will be next year
Besides, neither AMD nor nvidia earn their keep from Titan X/Fury X beating cards. So there is no point for AMD get out of their way to release such cards ahead of nvidia. They are going for money making mainstream and marketshare, regardless of your desires.
No, nvidia is expected to unveil consumer Pascal today. No one sane is talking about the launch yet. We have plenty of echo chambers (the same ones who claimed big pascal being released in April) telling us that computex is launch day. We are yet to see if they are right this time or wrong as most of the times.
Logically thinking if 1080 is gddr5x, then there is no chance in hell they will have any amount of cards if they launch in computex. Maybe 1070 launch.
This is true and I also recall AMD Roy saying they were ahead of the competition.
It's common sense that if AMD want to gain market share they have to beat Nvidia to the punch so that everyone doesn't go out and buy an Nvidia card because even if the AMD card is better I doubt many would feel like selling it to get AMD unless the difference is dramatic, which is unlikely.
Even if this is just a paper launch AMD should have done the same thing, all this secrecy never helps them and talking about and showing off their products would not give Nvidia an advantage, quite the opposite really.
You are going off on a tangent. I was specifically talking about when back to school is considered. Nothing about the nvidia stuff.
I think it's far more likely Global Floundries are slowing down AMD, they took ages getting yields up compared to Samsung on the same process. Pascal is supposedly around 350mm2 IIRC, which is bigger than expected. However TSMC's process is reportedly less dense and AMD favour density whereas NV space their transistors out.
If I had to guess I'd say NV were pressured into announcing earlier than they would've liked and may simply eat the overheads on the first runs. It seems they may have wanted to wow everyone with a "by the way, it's available NOW" at some trade show.
If I had to guess I'd say NV were pressured into announcing earlier than they would've liked and may simply eat the overheads on the first runs. It seems they may have wanted to wow everyone with a "by the way, it's available NOW" at some trade show.
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Don't think AMD are competing with Nvidia, as going different markets, AMDs only going for the VR market, they are just bringing out cheaper cards for its minimum spec.
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That's all well and good, but why can't they do both? I'm sure that Nvidia will have some cheaper cards that match the minimum VR spec based on Pascal too.
Look pal, I don't care for this and that when it comes to fanboys but you clearly do. You seem to insist that everything is AMD V NVidia and I seriously have no patience for that type of posting, so maybe look for someone else to debate that with?
Nothing personal, Greg, just learn to look from both sides. After all you say you are swinging both ways, just enjoy the side which is greener
