Praise Allah to be on British buses

[MatsyLR]

I'd rather see all religion outlawed and for people to grow up, but this doesn't really effect anyone.

 

[GinG]

Would a Muslim country allow "praise our christian god" on the side of their buses? No they wouldn't so in the name of equality id have to say no.

But as the UK is a multicultural and diverse county this comment is invalid.

 

[Safetytrousers]

A cult is a religion without enough power, a religion is a cult with enough power. If I start a religion and 20 people believe in it and no-one cares and we have no power, it would be called a cult. If 200 million people believed in it and we had therefore had enough power, it would be called a religion even if it was exactly the same thing it was when only 20 people believed in it and it was called a cult. The distinction is purely about power.
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I think it's more about size. How do you define power in this context? If 20 people devoutly believe something and several million devoutly to a bit believe in it then the distinction is size. If you mobilize enough of the people who a bit to a lot believe in a religion to do something out of the normal then that may be a powerful force simply through weight of numbers, but that would apply to any large enough group of people formed for any reason.
But this is moving away from the reason I made the previous posts, we seem to be agreeing that there is a distinction between a cult and a religion and the way those words are normally used.

 

[XeNoN89]

Freedom of religion is worth defending for the sake of preventing strife regardless of religion. If you think making a religion illegal will make extremist fanatics think twice before beheading you, then maybe the head might work better off your shoulders...

Making it illegal would make the UK the focus of Islamic extremism on an international level and label the UK as spearheading the anti-Muslim movement. I can only foresee more violence and trouble by going down this path.

Ideally we would make ALL religion illegal, or at least make it illegal to openly advertise it and brainwash children with it etc

 

[Roar87]

I always find it amusing when the Left come to the defense of Islam, which is actually more Far Right than the people they're opposing. Yes let's come to the defence of a Sexist Authoritarian religion which has rules on what you can wear, eat, at what time you can eat, that says you must pray 5 times a day and that people who aren't part of your Religion are considered 2nd class citizens. It really does baffle me.

 

[MookJong]

There are actual injustices carried out every day in the name of Islam, I would concentrate on those rather than a bus advert.

 

[DaleTheWhale]

I don't think religion should be advertised.
Advertising for a charity however is fine, just remove the religion part.

 

[Skunkworks]

Change it to a LCD screen that displays random passages from the Quran and Hadiths. It would be educational to those who know little about Islam.

 

[Hagar]

Praise God..........then three come along at once.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

I always find it amusing when the Left come to the defense of Islam, which is actually more Far Right than the people they're opposing. Yes let's come to the defence of a Sexist Authoritarian religion which has rules on what you can wear, eat, at what time you can eat, that says you must pray 5 times a day and that people who aren't part of your Religion are considered 2nd class citizens. It really does baffle me.

People are free to choose if they want to live some sort of weird regieme. A lot of us denounce what we see as the negative parts of Islam. But if people really want to live like that then that's up to them, as long as it doesn't effect the rest of us.

That's why the left defend Islam.

 

[Cosimo]

Change it to a LCD screen that displays random passages from the Quran and Hadiths. It would be educational to those who know little about Islam.

Good lord, that would be one step closer to a traveling mosque. Hop on and the next stop brings you closer to salvation. What next, preaching Oyster cards?

 

[Tosno]

People are free to choose if they want to live some sort of weird regieme. A lot of us denounce what we see as the negative parts of Islam. But if people really want to live like that then that's up to them, as long as it doesn't effect the rest of us.

That's why the left defend Islam.

Not because the enemy of my enemy (Christianity) is my friend?

 

[Maccy]

I'd ideally want to see Islam outlawed in the UK, but failing that the least I'd hope for is for it to not be allowed in the public space.

Freedom of religion is not something worth defending. It was something conjured up in different times to help resolve sectarian conflict between Christians, not to tolerate the odious and aggressive religion of Islam.

Really?

 

[Arazi]

Yeah because those brainwashed fanatics represent billions of normal peaceful Muslims

I have no problem with it but you usual knuckle draggers are obviously going to have a problem with it ie Britain First, EDL, BNP ..etc .etc

Just to add, do you think everyone everywhere who is a full on racist\bigot etc etc are all knuckle draggers as you have said? I have my own opinion of what a knuckle dragger is but i am interested in what your view on one is, because if you think that then that make's you just as brainless to even think that.

I don't think it's unreasonable to worry about Britain being influenced by Islamic culture, we are at rather opposite ends of the spectrum socially. Easy to dismiss everyone who has that concern as a "knuckle dragger" though.

Indeed.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Really?

Really. People are starting to wake up to the fact multiculturalism does not work, it's the antithesis of society.

 

[Arazi]

Not all in Islam share identical views in my experience.

You are right, quite a lot support extremism, quite a lot don't, which is more i would not know, as we would never get to the full truth, not in the UK anyway.

 

[Zethor]

Really. People are starting to wake up to the fact multiculturalism does not work, it's the antithesis of society.

The only way to eliminate/ban a religion is to eliminate/ban its followers. People such as yourself are more dangerous than terrorists.

 

[Skunkworks]

Lolzethor.

 

[Arazi]

'a cult is a religious or social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices.'
I think you need to understand a little harder.

I think you have been a bit sneaky only posting the above vague quote from where you found it, if anyone wants to read the full article here it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

Also if you had bothered to click on the 2nd link down in that article you will find that you have proved that religion actually is a cult, amazing.

Cult (religious practice):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_(religious_practice)

"The term cult identifies a pattern of ritual behavior in connection with specific objects, within a framework of spatial and temporal coordinates. Rituals would include (but not necessarily be limited to) prayer, sacrifice, votive offerings, competitions, processions and construction of monuments. Some degree of recurrence in place and repetition over time of ritual action is necessary for a cult to be enacted, to be practiced"

 

[Arazi]

Miriam Webster:

Simple Definition of cult
: a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous

How you use words has importance. The use of the word cult to describe a major world religion is pejorative and insulting.

So according to the above it is more insulting to call millions a cult for believing in said religion\made up story? but insulting a cult that involves only say 2000 is ok?

You need a better argument.