Praise Allah to be on British buses

Regardless of the subject matter whether something is fact or not is completely relevant, any sane person will side with something that is actually a fact, shirley.

Is it a fact though? Or just speculation?

None of the above are in the news bombing, stabbing, shooting or raping people are they?

So does that mean it doesn't exist?
 
Err...yes? :confused:

The Jews are bombing the Palestinians, India has a huge rape problem, and every country has people who stab and shoot each other.

Isn't this thread regarding Britain, Islam and a charity? why are some of you bringing the rest of the religions in to it as some kind of defense, seeing as the thread has gone down the usual road then only one religion is causing sickening mayhem around the world if you keep wanting to bring the rest of the world into it.

So please stop bringing all the other religions into this when you know yourself whatever backward crap any of these other religions and cultures are doing pales in comparison to what some followers of Islam are doing in the name of Islam.
 
Isn't this thread regarding Britain, Islam and a charity? why are some of you bringing the rest of the religions in to it as some kind of defense, seeing as the thread has gone down the usual road then only one religion is causing sickening mayhem around the world if you keep wanting to bring the rest of the world into it.

So please stop bringing all the other religions into this when you know yourself whatever backward crap any of these other religions and cultures are doing pales in comparison to what some followers of Islam are doing in the name of Islam.

We should be insulting Catholics and white boys in every thread about muslims. Facts are (and topics?) irrelevant.

Now my strange and obvious liberal question to you Arazi is, why can't buses jump over rivers?
 
This thread was never about violence or terrorism but that's where it quickly went and so it is unsurprising that the violence and terrorism in the name of other religions have been brought up as a comparison.
 
This thread was never about violence or terrorism but that's where it quickly went and so it is unsurprising that the violence and terrorism in the name of other religions have been brought up as a comparison.

All of them together pale in comparison.
 
In the media with wiki using the articles as reference but there has been some devastating ethnic cleansing in North India on behalf of catholicism in our time among many other things. If you were to have even media coverage of all the events you will find it no worse and would probably brand religion a potentially dangerous tool more than one religion dangerous.

I disagree this violence is even centralised around religion and the motive is mainly political with Islam as a tool to manipulate people, similarly to the way other religions have been used as tools to do a number of different things in the past up until now.
 
That's one person you've given as an example who's stated that, one person's opinion. Whether it is fact or not is irrelevant, you can choose to agree or disagree with him but it is not 'telling'.

Are you an ostrich or something, because you clearly have your head in the sand to not be aware of the masses of criticism levelled against Islam in the West. This is not an isolated opinion.

What is interesting about Trevor Phillips is that he is not someone you can describe as a racist or bigot; he campaigned for multiculturalism. Why has he suddenly change position? Because he realised that things had gone too far.

What about the rise of other cultures? Jews, Hindus, Sikhs - or let's open it up, a rise in the number of Indians/Chinese/whatever, does that bother/worry you too?

If there were a comparable number of Jews, Hindu's or Sikhs in the UK, I'd have concerns about them too, yes. If they started a campaign of terrorism against the West, I'd certainly regard them on par with Islam. Absolutely.
 
4/4 of the major conflicts with 10,000+ deaths in current or past year are in Islamic lands.

8/10 of the other conflicts with 1,000–9,999 deaths in current or past year are in Islamic lands.
 
Shocker, high number of deaths in places where there is war.

Oh look a chart showing that the number of terrorist attacks and resultant deaths correlate to involvement in the east and civil war. Hmmmm now is it about religion or is it about politics?

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In these cases, religion is just a tool of politics. Blame the tool and you will never fix the problem.
 
I'd ideally want to see Islam outlawed in the UK, but failing that the least I'd hope for is for it to not be allowed in the public space.

Freedom of religion is not something worth defending. It was something conjured up in different times to help resolve sectarian conflict between Christians, not to tolerate the odious and aggressive religion of Islam.

Along with all other religions, or just Islam?
 
Would a Muslim country allow "praise our christian god" on the side of their buses? No they wouldn't so in the name of equality id have to say no.

Why would it need to have "Christian" in that phrase. You do know Allan isn't specific to an Islamic god right (which is actually the same God Christians believe in).

It's just the Arabic word for God, used by anyone that speaks Arabic, whether they be Muslim, Christian or any other religion...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah
 
Along with all other religions, or just Islam?

Just Islam, since its only the tiny minority of this religion that are attacking us, the fact other religions are currently only involved in wars & violence with other people that doesn't affect me makes them irrelevant.
 
I always find it amusing when the Left come to the defense of Islam, which is actually more Far Right than the people they're opposing. Yes let's come to the defence of a Sexist Authoritarian religion which has rules on what you can wear, eat, at what time you can eat, that says you must pray 5 times a day and that people who aren't part of your Religion are considered 2nd class citizens. It really does baffle me.

I think you'll find this mythical "left" you keep talking about (or is it liberal, they seem to be used interchangeably...) are more interested in campaigning against gross stereotyping of an entire group of people based on one common factor (in this case religion, but it could equally be skin colour, education, sex etc)...

In the same way we don't blame all Christians for George bushes insistence that God told him to invade Iraq, we shouldn't just automatically associate an advert that happens to be put up by an Islamic group with terrorist attacks. It shines a more negative light on those that immediately associate the two than the organization that is putting up an advert to promote donating to charitable causes...
 
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I'm against advertising of religions.

It's essentially 'pay to win' recruitment propaganda.

How many lives have been lost in the name of Allah?
 
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