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That's a cool theory regarding Meera Dowie. Would never have thought of that.
Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]
But what if it's all about him? What about if he is actually Bran the builder, and not just named after him?
:'(
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I think he needed a way in, if he had stopped Bran he couldn't have taken out the children of the forest and the old tree dude.
So he wanted Bran to get inside, and then he could attack properly.
-edit it all seems to be set to plan, as the children seemed to know Mera would laeve, and Bran would need her, as if they all knew what their own ends would be.
Silly inquisitive boy, going up towers, starting warsHodoring in the past, meeting Night's Kings.
good points, that is a pretty good explanation
and yeah what tres just posted is slightly worrying for them too - Bran could really screw things up even further if that mark stays with him
also another thought on them heading north initially (since they've used the back door and there is an undead army to their south
re: preview
they're clearly still being pursued closely and it looks like they get surrounded with Meera apologizing to Bran....
however
re: the season 6 preview/trailer
however
re: the season 6 preview/trailer
there is someone on horse back in a snowy forest swinging a mace type thing on fire at another person... presumably that is north of the wall and is being swung at an undead type person... could it be
Uncle Brandon Stark to the rescue? (He also knows about Jon's mother too)
Uncle Brandon Stark to the rescue? (He also knows about Jon's mother too)
lastly - the small Jon Umber didn't pledge allegiance to the Boltons but just brought a gift and stated that he hates Wildlings... could he be playing Ramsey - he turned up only after Roose had died and Roose might have been more suspicious about the whole not pledging allegiance thing...
Jon is still outnumbered and even if he does get support from the Black fish he's not got good odds vs the Boltons
I wonder if during the battle the Umbers switch sides? Or maybe they just steal Winterfell after Ramsey marches north.
That really is just the biggest load of rubbish. All I did was point out that, at that time, you were the only one showing that opinion. Therefore, it wasn't people, only person: you. You subsequently had someone else agree with you, but not before I'd posted saying that you were the only one at that time.
You want me to have an infraction for pointing out something that was fact? That isn't in the rules mate, and I should know, I write them
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I had wondered the same regarding the Umbars before, I even thought it might have been a littlefinger ploy, playing a long game, but after Sansa sending him away, I don't know what to think now.
Two totally unnecessary deaths in that episode.
1) Summer - I thought direwolves were smart? His sacrifice didn't help or slow them down at all. Made me sad. I think they are just trimming the CGI budget by killing all the wolves.
2) The last 'child of the forest'. Could have lobbed that fancy grenade there bud. Oh well.
And poor hodor, his was a worthy sacrifice at least...though the white walkers could easily catch up to them. It wouldn't be hard with that many of them to run around and find them if they tried.
1) Summer - I thought direwolves were smart? His sacrifice didn't help or slow them down at all. Made me sad. I think they are just trimming the CGI budget by killing all the wolves.
2) The last 'child of the forest'. Could have lobbed that fancy grenade there bud. Oh well.
And poor hodor, his was a worthy sacrifice at least...though the white walkers could easily catch up to them. It wouldn't be hard with that many of them to run around and find them if they tried.
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not to mention the fact that shes pulling bran on the stretcher thingy leaving a trail in the snow for them to follow
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He was warged into the tree, he can warg into things without touching them.
The question is, when he was told, it was his turn to become 'me' the three eyed raven, or the crow, or whatever, I ponder just what this means.
Had the old man tree an effect on the world, or was he just a necessity, to be able to teach warging to the next generations.
Had he been present at all those events, did he influence them? Or just observe?
The children of the forest created the nights king, clearly regretted their actions later, wonder if this war is the last war, or will history repeat itself again and again.
The question is, when he was told, it was his turn to become 'me' the three eyed raven, or the crow, or whatever, I ponder just what this means.
Had the old man tree an effect on the world, or was he just a necessity, to be able to teach warging to the next generations.
Had he been present at all those events, did he influence them? Or just observe?
The children of the forest created the nights king, clearly regretted their actions later, wonder if this war is the last war, or will history repeat itself again and again.
Did he have the same influence on the mad king as Bran had on Hodor?
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The knockers on that Sansa actress though, magnifique!
^^ ref that other character mentioned above that is kind of book talk, might want to edit with the much loved spoiler tags - tis possible but I don't know if that character is important or not, he might just simply not be in the show. They've potentially left out other characters too
possibly - though the Wolves tend to die when the Stark kids do something dishonorable/anti-Stark. Lady died when Sansa told a lie and didn't stand up for her sister, Rob's wolf died when he pursued self interest and didn't honour his pledge to marry a Frey girl and Bran's wolf has died after he's decided to look through the heart trees while the 3 eyed raven was asleep.
Rikkon on the other hand - maybe he did something bad or maybe his wolf isn't actually dead and the rather small wolf head presented to Ramsey Bolton is actually part of the Umber's plot to gain his confidence.... alternatively if it is the CGI thing then that could also explain that wolf head
In two minds about this... that is perhaps why they've been marching about all over the area to the North of the Wall but haven't once attempted anything at the wall. They've just been waiting for Bran to appear with the mark... however if he is the key to them getting through the wall due to that mark screwing up the protective powers it has then they're trying a bit too hard to kill him - it seems equally plausible that the mark isn't really going to be of any significance any more but that Bran is simply someone the Night King sees as a very real threat and wants to kill.
- tis possible but I don't know if that character is important or not, he might just simply not be in the show. They've potentially left out other characters toopossibly - though the Wolves tend to die when the Stark kids do something dishonorable/anti-Stark. Lady died when Sansa told a lie and didn't stand up for her sister, Rob's wolf died when he pursued self interest and didn't honour his pledge to marry a Frey girl and Bran's wolf has died after he's decided to look through the heart trees while the 3 eyed raven was asleep.
Rikkon on the other hand - maybe he did something bad or maybe his wolf isn't actually dead and the rather small wolf head presented to Ramsey Bolton is actually part of the Umber's plot to gain his confidence.... alternatively if it is the CGI thing then that could also explain that wolf head
In two minds about this... that is perhaps why they've been marching about all over the area to the North of the Wall but haven't once attempted anything at the wall. They've just been waiting for Bran to appear with the mark... however if he is the key to them getting through the wall due to that mark screwing up the protective powers it has then they're trying a bit too hard to kill him - it seems equally plausible that the mark isn't really going to be of any significance any more but that Bran is simply someone the Night King sees as a very real threat and wants to kill.
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Maybe they are actually trying to capture him?
You have to think though, Mr 3 eyes knew about this mark. If it really is the key to the wall.. He took an almighty risk bringing Bran north, what was the true purpose?
well if they're not trying to capture him they're taking a lot of risk that one of their skeleton guys might kill him as part of this whole chase him back to the wall so the special mark removes its magical powers thing... I'm leaning more towards that special mark not being used to break the wall
also yeah, 3 eyes bloke wanted to teach him how to use his powers presumably and teach him that he shouldn't ever meddle in the past (with Hodor paying the price for that lesson)
would all be a bit simpler if one of the children of the forest types decided a while ago to take a trip to the Wall/Castle Black and explain 'Look, we messed up, there are these White Walker things that your predecessors fought, they're back and they're starting to kill the Wildlings and...'
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