Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

[McPhee]

The only way Theon ever gets a chance to kill Ramsey is if Ramsey wins next week.

TBH though, I think Theon is too broken to kill Ramsey. I doubt he's capable. While I'm sure he hates the guy, the chances of him keeping a level head in Ramsey's presence are slim to none. He'd just revert back to Reek.

well he's not predicted the whole chain of events but he's satisfied with the outcome and with how she's turned out and obviously has respect for her

That was my take on it too. Arya isn't a Faceless Man, but something else. She now knows how to assassinate people, but seeing the play reminded her of the value of life and the consequences of killing. She showed that she has respect for the Many Faced God and the traditions of the FM, but isn't okay with killing indiscriminately.

That might not be what Jaquen originally intended, but it's difficult not to respect it.

 

[wolfie138]

i was thinking Arya had set the whole thing up to lure the Waif - deliberately leaving blood trails etc, and being in a public place so she knew she would be seen/found. i was thinking the blood was theatrical blood she'd nicked when backstage at the theatre company, but that whole theory seems to be derailed by the fact the actress treated her for actual injuries, so that whole parkour-w/-a-stabbed-belly sequence just seemed ludicrous.

 

[aardvark]

the whole jumping about one minute and then being in great pain the next is perhaps the worst thing i've seen in GOT.
they really didn't think it through.

 

[DampDog]

the whole jumping about one minute and then being in great pain the next is perhaps the worst thing i've seen in GOT.
they really didn't think it through.

Have to agree, felt a little short-changed with the whole Arya story line. Being stabbed in the abdomen would have killed off lesser characters, let alone allow them to get up and run around the streets. Though I do think "Arya's" real test was not to succumb to the many faced God's, but to test her resolve and gain the skills "Arya Stark" required. Simply laying in wait in the dark with needle would have been more believable.

 

[Washout]

I think Arya was hurt but I'm fairly sure she was exaggerating how bad her wounds were to lure the waif into her lair in the dark where she knew she'd have the upper hand. As soon as she sliced the candle wick she seemed fine. The desperate run, leaving obvious trails of blood was an act.

The Faceless man was playing a long game here I think... Especially with her getting sent to see the play. Besides, he got a face for the wall as was needed and regardless, I think he's quite fond of Arya!

Looking forward to the B'Bowl next week. Think it'll go the obvious way...

Spoiler

Wildlings pushed to the brink of defeat and surrounded by Bolton spearmen before the lotr style rescue from the Knights of the Vale.

Or will they throw a curve ball? Certainly wouldn't be the first time!

Also hoping with the Mereen siege we see the dragons not being too much use as they're scared of getting close to the sea so we get to see what the Ironborn can do when off dry land...

 

[robfosters]

Don't know exactly how it's gonna go but there are not killing Jon off yet. He may lose, but will escape with his life. Tormund may be a gonner though.

 

[Tombstone]

Don't know exactly how it's gonna go but there are not killing Jon off yet. He may lose, but will escape with his life. Tormund may be a gonner though.

He'll win. But only thanks to Baelish arriving. Ramsey will kill Rickon in front of Jon to show how much of a bad guy he is. Jon wont kill Ramsey when he beats him to show how much of a softie he is.

 

[ShortWarning]

I am also disappointed with the Arya resolution.

I perhaps read too much into the Arya is Jaqen theory but the way she acted in the marketplace actually was a massive red herring or poor direction/acting. It was completely out of character and I'm disappointed it meant nothing.

This was the first episode of the season I wasn't thoroughly engrossed with. Something was off with it but it did have some good moments.

 

[Greboth]

I am also disappointed with the Arya resolution.

I perhaps read too much into the Arya is Jaqen theory but the way she acted in the marketplace actually was a massive red herring or poor direction/acting. It was completely out of character and I'm disappointed it meant nothing.

This was the first episode of the season I wasn't thoroughly engrossed with. Something was off with it but it did have some good moments.

I think Ayra's plan was to walk around the market being really open and unarmed as a ploy to lure out the Waif. The plan was then to do what happened, lure her to the spot and then kill her in the dark. However I don't think it went quite to plan as Ayra's injuries were worse than expected so she needed to heal first before finishing her plan.

 

[dowie]

well yeah... that was clearly the plan but she obviously can't predict every minute detail... whether she envisaged definitely being stabbed or not isn't known nor is it important - if she did then the actual event happening is still going to be traumatic for her and she'll still be in shock regardless of her knowing it was coming. If she didn't then she's come up with the blood trail thing as a way of luring the waif anyway to fulfill her goal. I think Maisie acted that whole scene perfectly in episode 7. The parkour-esq jump in episode 8 was slightly dodgy given her state but overall whole thing was pretty cool - I don't understand why people are complaining, she's undergone a journey/transformation that started when she was paired up with the hound and first killed a man. Then again I didn't understand the willingness of people to buy into utter nonsense like the 'fake arya' theory.

 

[ShortWarning]

My problem is, her plan was to walk around town and "give it large as a Westerosi highborne" to lure the Waif out. That makes sense but to be so unprepared for what happens when she meets the Waif just seems so ridiculous.

She knows the Waif can take the face of anyone (in their halls), right?

Arya has had (we assume) years of training and even before that she had a fairly decent head on her shoulders. This is just so out of character for her.

It was just poor all round for me.

Edit - It's not just that, she was stabbed multiple times in the gut, she proceeded to jump in a poo infested canal. It's lucky that Lady Crane was conveniently a surgeon and good enough to put Arya's insides back together. I'm guessing that sleeping potion had super human anti biotics in there as well. Also, it's lucky that Arya has Wolverine like healing abilities allowing her to PK around the city (something we've never seen her do, I'm guessing Jaqen taught her this off screen).

Silly, silly writing.

 

[DampDog]

This was the first episode of the season I wasn't thoroughly engrossed with. Something was off with it but it did have some good moments.

Same here, for the most part I'm still hooked and enjoy it all enormously but that episode felt a little off to me. The conclusion the Arya plot-line was just clumsy. I know that a series that has dragons, giants and dire-wolves means we suspend our disbelief from the moment the titles roll but Arya's running and jumping around (post stabbing) for the purpose of the "chase" was all a little bit too convoluted for the sake of it. Great to see the Hound back in the game. Great show, just a little underwhelmed by that episode. (though In did laugh at Tyrion's joke)

 

[Street]

I think Arya was hurt but I'm fairly sure she was exaggerating how bad her wounds were to lure the waif into her lair in the dark where she knew she'd have the upper hand. As soon as she sliced the candle wick she seemed fine. The desperate run, leaving obvious trails of blood was an act.

I thought the blood she left was juice from the fruit she squashed. They seemed to make a big deal of the fruit and after that she acted injured and was wiping it everywhere.

 

[MooMoo444]

The blood she left was because she tore her stitches, she very clearly reaches for her gut, is in pain and she gets blood on her hands. She probably wanted to lure the waif with the trails but it was definitely blood.

 

[kaptainmarc]

just lolcakes at people complaining about arya doing what she did, the human body can do amazing things when adrenaline takes over

a woman got fully preggo overnight and had a smoke baby which flew away and killed someone .....................

 

[aardvark]

just lolcakes at people complaining about arya doing what she did, the human body can do amazing things when adrenaline takes over

a woman got fully preggo overnight and had a smoke baby which flew away and killed someone .....................

i'm fine with fantasy but this was 'real'. if they had explained that she had super healing abilities then i would be fine with that, as long as they told us.
people have been affected by swords in a pretty consistent way throughout the series....until now.

 

[Washout]

My problem is, her plan was to walk around town and "give it large as a Westerosi highborne" to lure the Waif out. That makes sense but to be so unprepared for what happens when she meets the Waif just seems so ridiculous.

She knows the Waif can take the face of anyone (in their halls), right?

Arya has had (we assume) years of training and even before that she had a fairly decent head on her shoulders. This is just so out of character for her.

It was just poor all round for me.

Edit - It's not just that, she was stabbed multiple times in the gut, she proceeded to jump in a poo infested canal. It's lucky that Lady Crane was conveniently a surgeon and good enough to put Arya's insides back together. I'm guessing that sleeping potion had super human anti biotics in there as well. Also, it's lucky that Arya has Wolverine like healing abilities allowing her to PK around the city (something we've never seen her do, I'm guessing Jaqen taught her this off screen).

Silly, silly writing.

I don't think she thought they'd come after her in the first place, hence the shock and being indignant with Jaqen.

Sleeping potion = milk of the poppy which I guess is pretty much morphine/heroin. She's certainly hurt but I think exaggerating it to lure the waif in.

 

[ShortWarning]

I don't think she thought they'd come after her in the first place, hence the shock and being indignant with Jaqen.

Sleeping potion = milk of the poppy which I guess is pretty much morphine/heroin. She's certainly hurt but I think exaggerating it to lure the waif in.

Really? Arya is portrayed as being pretty smart. She also retrieved Needle and slept with it next to her. She knew they were coming.

It would be interesting to know how long she was asleep for but unless it was 8 months I don't think morphine would have allowed her to pk around the city. Sure, the pain may be dulled but you would have physical limitations after having your guts stuffed back into you.

 

[Scrutinize]

In a world of white walkers, resurrections, mysticism, dragons, warging, the many faced god, and time travel you guys are getting your knickers in a twist over the reality of Ayra's healing and abilities in this instance.

 

[McGraw]

Really? Arya is portrayed as being pretty smart. She also retrieved Needle and slept with it next to her. She knew they were coming.

It would be interesting to know how long she was asleep for but unless it was 8 months I don't think morphine would have allowed her to pk around the city. Sure, the pain may be dulled but you would have physical limitations after having your guts stuffed back into you.

My morphine on demand machine just about made things bearable following my laporotomy...maybe opium would have helped a bit more but she wouldn't have been running and jumping about if it was less than a fortnight