*** Battlefield 1 ***

Then for those who want more, there is DLC. For me, I like that it exists. Because often enough, I *do* enjoy more. Especially in a multiplayer shooter, where it's easy to run out of steam on existing content. And I like that Season Passes exist. If I *know* I'm going to be buying the expansions for a certain game, why not get a discount on it? If you'd rather wait and see and only buy DLC here and there for a game, then dont worry about the Season Pass. It's not being forced on you, it's just being made as an option. I do recommend being very selective on which games you buy a Season Pass for, though. Certain devs I trust a lot more than others and only do it if you're *sure* you'll be getting all the DLC anyways. In other words, nothing wrong with it - customers just need to be smart about it.

Are you being paid by EA? DLC's as Nexus has mentioned are a mechanism to continue to milk the player base and only serve to divide players as was evidenced in BF4. There should never be a situation where you can't play with your friends because you didn't pay for premium.

DICE should have taken a page out of Blizzard Entertainment's book and used other mechanisms to fund post release support.
 
Quite normal. DLC plans are made ahead of time. It's good management.


What do you mean 'it should be in the base game'? This is where I think a lot of gamers really would benefit from understanding how development works.

Yes, they *could* put it in the base game, but they'd have to delay the entire base game to do it. And then you could make the same argument for their next content expansion. Say THAT is supposed to be in the base game and you delay the entire game to include. Etc etc. Eventually the game comes with ALL the content from expansions, but it's a year and a half later!! Obviously not realistic or practical for many reasons.


I think they're just trying to promote 'Premium' assocation with DLC, but other sources have stated this is just an expansion, like any of the others. Will be available for 'free' to Premium members, but will still be available to buy separately for non-Premium members.


You're increasingly showing you dont really understand how game development works.

Hardline was a FULL game. Full new singleplayer, full new multiplayer. It was its own game, content-wise.

And I understand if you'd like bigger expansions that do more interesting things. That's great. But you overstepping things when you say that anything that *doesn't* do that isn't actually DLC. Because you're literally and objectively wrong in that situation. You dont get to decide what DLC is and isn't. You are merely expressing preference for what you'd like to see in DLC. You should really understand the difference.

And plenty of us do not mind DLC, as it is. I dont go buy all the DLC I can snap up, but I definitely get more than my money's worth in those I do. Battlefield expansions are one of those examples. I'm very happy with the quantity and quality of content they put out for the price they charge. If you dont get enough playtime out of them, fine, it's not good value to you. But dont act like it's an outrage when for a whole lot of us, it's fine.


Ya know, if gamers would accept games that cost $90-100+ like they probably should given inflation and the exponential rising costs of game production, publishers wouldn't have to do all this stuff. But gamers wouldn't accept that. As it is, for the same price that a game cost in 1995, we get MUCH bigger games(on average) that cost magnitudes more to make. I dont really see how we can complain.

Then for those who want more, there is DLC. For me, I like that it exists. Because often enough, I *do* enjoy more. Especially in a multiplayer shooter, where it's easy to run out of steam on existing content. And I like that Season Passes exist. If I *know* I'm going to be buying the expansions for a certain game, why not get a discount on it? If you'd rather wait and see and only buy DLC here and there for a game, then dont worry about the Season Pass. It's not being forced on you, it's just being made as an option. I do recommend being very selective on which games you buy a Season Pass for, though. Certain devs I trust a lot more than others and only do it if you're *sure* you'll be getting all the DLC anyways. In other words, nothing wrong with it - customers just need to be smart about it.

With the amount of money being made by these gaming companies, you'd think they could write an algorithm which would deal with hackers/cheaters in game - maybe something written into the base game which allows players to vote to kick...not something that is implemented server end only.

Been far too many instances of hackers/cheaters in the last week and considering what we've paid for BF4, you'd think the devs could make an effort!!
 
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I NEED CLICK AND FORGET WEAPONS TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE!


Thank god there are no stupid lock on auto homing pew pew left button click auto kill no skill weapons I say.

It's not easy to lock-on to stuff. Maybe you should try sticking behind cover and not get painted?

I think you're both pro WW1 weapons because you die to easy.
 
It's not easy to lock-on to stuff. Maybe you should try sticking behind cover and not get painted?

I think you're both pro WW1 weapons because you die to easy.

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It's not easy to lock-on to stuff. Maybe you should try sticking behind cover and not get painted?

I think you're both pro WW1 weapons because you die to easy.

You're correct, the MBT Law struggle is real. God forbid they would add weapons where you actually needed to aim.
 
With the amount of money being made by these gaming companies, you'd think they could write an algorithm which would deal with hackers/cheaters in game - maybe something written into the base game which allows players to vote to kick...not something that is implemented server end only.

Been far too many instances of hackers/cheaters in the last week and considering what we've paid for BF4, you'd think the devs could make an effort!!

Ok that's nice...Now reality is a bit different. Cheat providers will ALWAYS be ahead of anti cheat due to how it works. You can't patch an exploit if you don't know about it lol.

I wish they just made BF5 because WW1 weapons suck. You spend more time reloading than shooting.

Plus no heat-seekers :(

I agree, don't listen to these noobs like Westie and Tony. I don't want to aim my weapons anymore so was hoping for BF420 where everything is auto lock on.

**** skill, I want a balanced game where no player input matters. Oh well, guess I can always download aimbot.
 
there is no plus points anymore for pre order since key sites are available.

only real reason is if they tie in the beta to pre purchase. thing is big treble aaa titles need as many people to play as possible to test so you kind of okay anyway.

Don't give them ideas like that Dg! :p

Mind you it'd be funny to see their reaction if 1 million people cancelled their pre-orders after the beta.

The only thing the beta is for is for server load testing, and trying to identify new cheat code. They rarely make meaningful changes to these games based on the beta because it's too late by then. The decisions seem to be made at the alpha stage with a select group of DICE's friends. It's not clear to me that they always make the right decisions either.
 
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I am the only one who wishes the new battlefield games would go back to the way it was in bf2/1942 a lot slower pace ?

Games change with time.
I am fine with what I seen with Bf1, great visuals, slower pace and a whole new way to play. Looks like a winner to me.

Some of us actually like a challenge. Thank god there are no stupid lock on auto homing pew pew left button click auto kill no skill weapons I say.

Snipers complained in BC2 as you could shot a dart and mark them and then homing in the rocket which was btw so funny.
friends started to complain when I used the cg to one shot people all around the map. funny, always the snipers that complained.

snipers looked a lot like they used to with Bf1 sadly, little bit OP as usual unless you can step aside which havent been there since bf2.
Once game is out then one can check out how well they balanced the game.

and besides, dont run in the open as thats often the best way to die. :D
grab a tank, get to flag, clear flag take down snipers. etc..
repeat.
 
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