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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

fastboy said:
$249 :)
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It's actually $229.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9784/the-amd-radeon-r9-380x-review

Based on some recent leaks it looks more and more like AMD is basically going for double the performance of a 380X which would put it slightly ahead of a 390 but slower than a 390X.This will be good for anyone with a 380X or 960 but a sidegrade for anyone with a 970/390 unless the AIB cards overclock well like the rumours.

Being optimistic, the 480 is supposed to have 5.83 teraflops @1266MHz so it must match a 390X but some of the leaks are making it confusing as hell.
 
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PhoenixUK said:
Surely the 1070 is garbage as well since it's basically a 980/980ti and a 970 was a pointless card since a 780 already offered the same performance.

Nvidia is clearly a piece of garbage, why can't they give us performance gains, every year they give us the same cards! Bohooo Nvidia, 1070, 970, they're all total fail.

Why did you even bother buying a 970? It was a waste of money, the were already other cards with that performance from as far as a year before?
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The 970 is on parr with the 780TI, if not slightly quicker, and launched Sub $300.

The 1070 is just as quick as the 980TI but £100 cheaper.
 
The fact that the 480 isn't likely to surpass the 390/970 by much is irrelevant - it will still sell like hotcakes because what's the alternative? Nvidia's still showing nothing at this price level. Just like AMD isn't showing anything at the higher-end and therefore Nvidia getting all the sales there. It's very basic marketing.
 
RedGoose said:
Is the 1070 basically a 980 or a 980ti? Those are two entirely different cards in two separate performance tiers.

Of course the answer is the 980ti, though in reality the 1070 easily beats it at stock clocks. The 980ti is a beast OCer so if you want to OC then the 980ti is likely the better choice.

What you're alleging is that the argument is that because there's a comparable card the 480 is pointless, but that's not the argument. Yes, there was a comparable card for the 1070 on release. The reason the 1070 was anticipated is because that comparable card cost twice as much as Nvidia told us the 1070 would cost.

The 1070 was MSRP 370 dollars while the 980ti was 670 dollars. For some reason, expecting a 370 card to beat a 670 one from the previous generation was perfectly reasonable, but expecting a ~225 dollar card to beat a 400 dollar card from last generation is ridiculous? Typically we expect newer cards to perform better as technology advances and graphical demands increase. The only thing new or ridiculous here is the notion that a midrange card replacing previous gen midrange cards is the norm. A die shrink especially is where we should see major performance gains for less cost.

Not to you specifically but this is also why the car analogy I saw earlier is ridiculous. You can't equate an industry where units from over 30 years ago are still just as viable as the brand new ones. Technology industries rely on increasing performance for at very least comparable prices. The status quo is a failure in the tech market.
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You've clearly missed my point.

And a 480 is $199 and 390 was $420, yet this pillock keeps complaining that 480 is pointless because 390 already offers same performance.

I know that the argument is dumb and irrelevant, that's what I'm trying to point out here to Mr humbug who clearly is contradicting himself by his own choices of cards.
 
Hmm if any of the leaked firestrike benches are accurate, and price estimates on point, then we are looking at half the performance of an overclocked GTX 980 Ti (1500/2000). Seen those going for 350-400€ (with warranty) so much less than the 500-600€ that you need to pay for CF RX480s. And here I was thinking an overclocked RX480 would come real close to a GTX 980 Ti. If these numbers are anywhere near accurate this is going to be an even worse flop than fiji. :p
 
humbug said:
The 970 is on parr with the 780TI, if not slightly quicker, and launched Sub $300.

The 1070 is just as quick as the 980TI but £100 cheaper.
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Wait what?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-03f-pl.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...aphics-card-ne5x98th15jb-2000j-gx-034-pl.html


So according to your maths, £400 is £100 cheaper than £360????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Please, delete your account and stop posting, ever.
 
Prices reduced just before and after 1070 launch ^^^ is the 980TI better value at £350 than the 1070 at £400, possibly, difficult choice. ^^^^

PhoenixUK said:
You've clearly missed my point.

And a 480 is $199 and 390 was $420, yet this pillock keeps complaining that 480 is pointless because 390 already offers same performance.

I know that the argument is dumb and irrelevant, that's what I'm trying to point out here to Mr humbug who clearly is contradicting himself by his own choices of cards.
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$420? if your going to make stuff up to suit your pricing arguments best not go completely over the top, you just look too obvious for anyone to miss.

You do realise $420 puts the them at about £380 if not higher?
 
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Poneros said:
The fact that the 480 isn't likely to surpass the 390/970 by much is irrelevant - it will still sell like hotcakes because what's the alternative? Nvidia's still showing nothing at this price level. Just like AMD isn't showing anything at the higher-end and therefore Nvidia getting all the sales there. It's very basic marketing.
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Well why tho? If it's 390 perf for ~390 price, surely it's no more attractive an option than the 390 was...

So all this talk about it being an amazing replacement for the 380... surely it's no better a replacement than the 290/390 has been for a couple years now?
 
PhoenixUK said:
Wait what?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-03f-pl.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...aphics-card-ne5x98th15jb-2000j-gx-034-pl.html


So according to your maths, £400 is £100 cheaper than £360????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Please, delete your account and stop posting, ever.
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Maxwell prices dropped after the GTX 1070 was launched, just like the prices of the GTX 780 Ti dropped once the GTX 970 had launched. The launch price for the GTX 1070 was higher though, probably because of limited supply, and of course because nvidia knew people were willing to pay. Personally I still think the GTX 980 Ti is the better buy, but only if you can get a good one for cheap second hand.
 
humbug said:
melmac your being very disengenuois, the $200 coment was before i realised that this card would actually be the 4GB refrence one and at £200 after taxes ect, AMD cited $200 was not retail, i thought at the time that it was, IE about £150 retail.

The Titan-X was with the caviat that other leaks at the time sugesting Fury-Nano performance had some truth and only overclocked at the more expensive end of the AIB cards.

Which of course turns out not to be even close.

it is just a GTX 970 at around the same money and so far seems doesn't even overclock anything like as good.

My opinon is a £250 AIB 480 at the same level as £270 AIB GTX 970's (at launch) is frankley crap.
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The 200 dollar is retail

What is your problem ?

You said earlier if the 480 would be comparable to the 390 it would be a good card ??
 
humbug said:
Prices reduced just before and after 1070 launch ^^^ is the 980TI better value at £350 than the 1070 at £400, possibly, difficult choice. ^^^^



$420? if your going to make stuff up to suit your pricing arguments best not go completely over the top, you just look too obvious for anyone to miss.

You do realise $420 puts the them at about £380 if not higher?
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The 390x released at $429 and never really changed until Nvidia released there new cards. We are seeing fire sale prices on end of line cards which are not comparable to products that are about to release. So basically we are about to get a RX480 which should be on par with a 390x at nearly half the price.
 
Feoilban said:
The 200 dollar is retail

What is your problem ?

You said earlier if the 480 would be comparable to the 390 it would be a good card ??
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It's not going to be 200 USD. 200 USD in GBP ~150 GBP. 150 GBP * 1.2 = 180 GBP. These are all going to be over 200 GBP. This means we'll not even be close to the announced msrp. Basically what we are seeing is AMD's answer to the GTX 970, with more ram, a couple of years too late. :D Basically GTX 980/Fury/Nano performance for 250 GBP would be awesome. GTX 970 performance for 200+ GBP is frankly crap.
 
TheRealDeal said:
The 390x released at $429 and never really changed until Nvidia released there new cards. We are seeing fire sale prices on end of line cards which are not comparable to products that are about to release. So basically we are about to get a RX480 which should be on par with a 390x at nearly half the price.
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The 390X, not the 390.

Even the 390X was not launched at $430, some of them may have cost that, at the upper end.

The 390X was always $100 more expensive, it had the X tax.
 
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