The next Labour leader thread

Labour voters backed Remain 2:1 and an even higher margin among Corbyn supporting members. The idea that he could have gained support by going against what most Labour voters, and even more Labour members, wanted is utterly bizarre.

There is no way of knowing how Labour members voted.
 
This is comical, Hunt vs McDonnell: http://bbc.in/28Z9BUT.

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Perhaps the second funniest expression I've seen today from a political programme :p
 
People who tend to blame the government, and everyone else under the sun but themselves for whatever ails their existence, are usually the neediest of government's largesse that they so viscerally despise. I never could understand this alternating schizophrenic phenomena of self pitying and psychological projection.
 
People who tend to blame the government, and everyone else under the sun but themselves for whatever ails their existence, are usually the neediest of government's largesse that they so viscerally despise. I never could understand this alternating schizophrenic phenomena of self pitying and psychological projection.

Dictionary for breakfast?
 
He will make any subsequent ballot and the membership will vote for him.

By doing this, the PLP have actually helped him.
It seems that the Labour party rules state, that if there is no leadership vacancy, i.e. the party is attempting to oust the current leader, any nominee needs 20% of the current Labour MPs to secure a nomination and get themselves on the ballot. Where there is a vacancy, i.e. when Ed Milliband resigned as leader of the party, the magic number is 15% of the current Labour MPs.

Jeremy Corbyn only scraped in with 36 nominations with 35 being the number needed to get nominated and a few of those MPs who nominated Corbyn have gone on record since saying they regret doing so.

There are currently 229 Labour MPs. 20% is 45.8 (46) and 15% is 34.35 (35). I don't think it is guaranteed that Jeremy Corbyn would get 35 nominations this time considering he only scraped in with 36 last time and, whilst some Labour MPs might nominate him this time round having not done so last time, he'll also lose nominations from those Labour MPs who regret nominating him.

It seems the big argument Labour is going to have soon is does an ousted/challenged Labour leader have the right to be entered onto the ballot bypassing the nomination requirement or not. Corbyn and his allies think he does, the MPs resigning from the Shadow Cabinet and their backbench allies don't think he does.
 
lets put it straight labour will never win an election not in 4yrs time or if/when the tory's do a snap election in a few months time .with Corbyn in charge labour has got no chance at all, he might be an nice guy in his own rights but he is no way prime minister material now or in the future.not sure what is going on with the labour party they wasted over six years with two numptys of late ed miliband and now with this arrogant person Corbyn . and before any one asks i been an labour voter for over 30yrs but not for the last 6yrs my vote went else where. labour as got true leaders in the camp that can win the next election but not with this person in charge now.
 
lets put it straight labour will never win an election not in 4yrs time or if/when the tory's do a snap election in a few months time .with Corbyn in charge labour has got no chance at all, he might be an nice guy in his own rights but he is no way prime minister material now or in the future.not sure what is going on with the labour party they wasted over six years with two numptys of late ed miliband and now with this arrogant person Corbyn . and before any one asks i been an labour voter for over 30yrs but not for the last 6yrs my vote went else where. labour as got true leaders in the camp that can win the next election but not with this person in charge now.

True leaders?

LOL NO, they do not, Rees-Moggs, Sturgeon and the Speaker are about the only worthwhile politicians in any office in the country at the moment.
 
He has the support of the membership, unless a better candidate can be found. That was my point. Quite simply, if the PLP want him gone then they need to find someone else that members will get behind.

I don't have anyone in mind. TBH I'm not sure there is such a candidate. But if that person can be found, Corbyn might go.

Corbyn is dependent on the PLP to get back on the ballot paper if a leadership election is forced.

He would need 46 mps willing to support him. I'm not sure he has the numbers, he won't get charity nominations that he relied on last time (when the burden was slightly lower)
 
This past week has demonstrated the sham of what our democracy is.

When the elite don't like the vote they whinge, complain and will do everything they can to get the results they want.

People vote for Corbyn, elites want him out. People vote to leave the EU, elites conspire to keep us in.

Why BOTHER having a leadership election, why BOTHER having a referendum if the establishment holds the result in contempt?
 
Corbyn is dependent on the PLP to get back on the ballot paper if a leadership election is forced.

He would need 46 mps willing to support him. I'm not sure he has the numbers, he won't get charity nominations that he relied on last time (when the burden was slightly lower)

No he isn't, that is why this is a monumental balls up by the PLP.
 
How bad does that Ed over David decision look now?

I wouldn't say it looks bad at all. But then, I don't really believe in the legend of David Miliband. I remain unconvinced he was much more desirable than his brother. Similar politics, similarly nerdy persona. He's just a little better looking and a touch more articulate.

IMHO, the Tories would have wiped the floor with David, just as they did Ed and Gordon Brown.
 
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