He's not showing strength now IMO, the strong choice would have been to step down after the shambles he made of the referendum. His own party didn't know which way he was voting.
He's lost the membership and needs to go.
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He's not showing strength now IMO, the strong choice would have been to step down after the shambles he made of the referendum. His own party didn't know which way he was voting.
He's lost the membership and needs to go.
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Well, imho, Corbyn does need to step down now that Watson as come out against him.
Which is a shame, as this would have been the perfect opportunity to isolate the Blairites once and for all. After all, Watson was the architect in getting Blair to resign.
Which is a shame, as this would have been the perfect opportunity to isolate the Blairites once and for all. After all, Watson was the architect in getting Blair to resign.
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How he's plugging the holes that are appearing everywhere, he's barely trading water. Even if he survives, he's not the person to unite the party and actually give a reliable opposition. He does not have enough support amongst MPs to have a strong labour party.
It seems uniting the Party in Parliament and the wider grass roots is impossible it looks to me like a split in the party is almost inevitable particularly if he stands again and wins.
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It's really a massive stretch to say as such. It basically boils down to not wanting to appear on a platform with DC, which is a totally legitimate position considering how toxic he is now and how the Labour party fundamentally disagreed with the case DC was making for remain.
I found Corbyn immensely refreshing after all the years of spin from Labor. He seemed very genuine and in touch with the people.
Unfortunately it looks like he just doesn't have what it takes to ride out the Brexit tsunami. The fact that he's never been particularly enthusiastic about the EU himself probably didn't help either.
Unfortunately it looks like he just doesn't have what it takes to ride out the Brexit tsunami. The fact that he's never been particularly enthusiastic about the EU himself probably didn't help either.
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Apparently is Tom Watson is furious with the BBC, he never called for Corbyn to resign and wants them to rescind the marks and apologise.
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The party is a joke. British mainstream politics is also a joke. It's quite sad
I assume Laura Kuenssberg 'broke' the story.
Corbyn was trying to learn from the mistakes of Scotland.
I'm furious with the rebels for doing this now. Talk about handing the divided and disorganised Tories a massive gift! Not only have they managed to take all the attention off the Tory's own crisis, not only are they failing to hold them to account because they've been forced to concentrate on this infighting instead, but they're even managed to embed that the narrative that somehow Brexit was the Labour party's fault and not Cameron's.
Argh!
Argh!
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Dont mind this, anything that kills the Labour party is worth it.
Sometimes being an idealist doesn't make for being a good politician. The impression I got from Corbyn was that he didn't really want to support Remain but felt he had to. He was not at all convincing.
Not to mention he was happy to share a platform with some pretty unpleasant people in his past.
This.
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Couldn't agree more they are an absolute shambles. Regardless of who wins any leadership election there are too many divisions and too much bad blood to allow them to form any sort of effective opposition. The anti Corbyn lobby have been looking for a pretext to oust him from the day he took the leadership reigns, there was no way he was ever going to be given a fair crack of the whip. The fact that he was so popular with grass root labour members and won the leadership election comprehensively meant nothing to the PLP, the democratic will of the labour members could just go hang. They are an absolute joke and totally undemocratic. And as for Hillary Benn, his old man must be spinning in his grave..